New kole has ich I think

zack879

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Ok so if I put the kole in ht and get a sterilizer. What do I do when I add the kole back? I'm leaving my whipfin wrasse and clowns in the tank. He's gunna get it again correct?
 

zack879

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Now I'm not seeing any on him at all. This is day 2. I don't think it moves that fast. I'm def gunna look into a sterilizer but I wonder if it was just air bubbles or something. My fish have had stuff I've mistaken for ich in the past. I'll continue to monitor him
 

pdawg

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No, you put the sterilizer on you main tank, and that is it, the sterilizer will diminish the amount of parasite in your tank to the point where you cant see any ich, i havent spotted ich in my tank since ive put on the sterilizer, get a good sterilizer though, i recommend the turbotwist, and do a higher wattage than whats rated for your tank, like i said, i have a 36 watt on a 130 gallon tank.
 

pdawg

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ich will go onto a host, get full of blood, and fall off. this is an effect that leaves many to believe that the fish doesnt have ich anymore. Just make sure he doesnt have it, and have a sterilizer picked out somewhere that you can order just in case.
 

steved13

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Don't care what Lee has to say. He can't think outside the box. He's like a bean counter, he's to much of a by the numbers guy. And it doesn't work that way.
If Lee was correct in this theory, then how in my tank, did I get ICH to show up, after not adding 1 fish to the tank for a YEAR. Then added a Naso Tang from COPPER TREATMENT?

Keep in mind (and you might want to try and keep it open) what you are saying is that there is no tank anywhere that does not have ich. Shear probability says you have to be wrong. You are not correct. If your mind is open to the idea that the statement "every tank has Ich" might be wrong than you need to admit it and move on. If you can't then you need not accuse others of being incapable of thinking outside the box.

You can ask how did my tank get ich all day long, the truth is only you would know, we don't know that you QT'd every addition properly, or treated anything properly. If your argument is valid, then all I have to do is ask, how do you explain that many people here (I'm one of them) have never seen any ich in their tank? Also many people have seen Ich and followed the threads I posted and haven't seen it since?
 

steved13

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Ok well I seem to have started a good debate. Which I am glad because it's informative to me. However this kole tang that I have dos have ich. He is swimming well and eating off the rocks and some of my reef one frozen soaked in garlic. My other three fish are great. Should I intervene or let it go and see how he does. Mine inclination was he can fight it. He was qted after coming to the lfs and never go ich. Or perhaps he did and they didn't notice but he didn't have it when I got him so my thinking is he's healthy and can fight it. As long as he is eatin I think he'll be better off staying out of my 10 gal qt. ESP because the majority of his food comes of of my LR and green algae ridden glass. Thoughts? I will do a water change and get it ready just in case.

The best advice I have, is to read the threads I posted. At least read them and then make up your own mind. They are not the easiest way, but usually the easiest way is not the best way.
 

PSU4ME

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I think ich goes through a cycle.........visibile and none visible stages so this might be what you are seeing. It is in Lee's threads somewhere - I'll see if I can find it.
 

zack879

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Well I'm going to let him fight it off as lOng as he continues tO eat. I will also add uv sterilizer today.
 

pdawg

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Im not sure if you get what a UV sterilizer does, but with the proper size sterilizer, your ich problem will go away, although i haven't seen ich in my aquarium in over a year, my tank would still be considered to carry the parasite because i was not successful of ridding the parasite when i let my tank run fishless for 8 weeks.
 

zack879

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I understand that while it won't cure my kole it could help all my other guys to remain parasite free and protect my future fish from contracting it. I'm kinda of the opinion that all fish and tanks have it and when stressed it can effect them negatively. It's like demodex mange in dogs. When they are immuno suppressed the demo can flair. But all dogs carry it all the time.
 

fishguy4

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u def should have QTed him urself in my opinion. U never know how they are QTing him there and always QT him urself to be sure. I would take him out and QT him now

about the ich as far as i know ich is not in every fish yet it can be carried and not show itself. it has many phases in its cycle and only one, the mother colony breeding, is visible to the naked eye. that means ur fish could have ich and u may not know it.

I have never had a UV sterilizer before but its one of those things (as im told) that will kill the ich occasionally but its not a sure fire way to eliminate it. Thats why i have never spent the $$ it just seems like a bit of a waste. idk tho really
 

zack879

Member
Well I think since he's eating now ill see how it goes w a sterilzer so putting him in a ten gallon will make it worse.
 

fishguy4

Member
Why will putting him in a 10 gallon make it worse? He needs to be QTed or ur whole system will become infected, if they havent been already.
 

DaveK

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I must say that this thread contains quite a debate on the treatment of SW ick. Regretfully, I see a lot of advice that I consider incorrect, or obsolete, or of limited valve. Rather than get into even more debate, I'm posting links to leebca's excellent threads on the disease and treatment. I consider these to be the best advice on the disease that is currently available.

http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/57175-fish-white-spots-went-away.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...nts/23131-hyposalinity-treatment-process.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...ents/23130-copper-treatment-use-problems.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/23132-marine-ich-myths-facts.html

My quick summary - You must treat all the fish in a quarantine tank. The two serious methods that actually work are hyposalinity or copper, and they should never be used together. Treatment takes a long time, 8 - 10 weeks after you see the last spot. All other treatments might offer some moderate relief, but do not solve the underlying problem. No matter what anyone tells you there are no "reef safe" medications that are also effective.
 

sk8rdn

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DaveK said:
I must say that this thread contains quite a debate on the treatment of SW ick. Regretfully, I see a lot of advice that I consider incorrect, or obsolete, or of limited valve. Rather than get into even more debate, I'm posting links to leebca's excellent threads on the disease and treatment. I consider these to be the best advice on the disease that is currently available.

http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/57175-fish-white-spots-went-away.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/23131-hyposalinity-treatment-process.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/23130-copper-treatment-use-problems.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/23132-marine-ich-myths-facts.html

My quick summary - You must treat all the fish in a quarantine tank. The two serious methods that actually work are hyposalinity or copper, and they should never be used together. Treatment takes a long time, 8 - 10 weeks after you see the last spot. All other treatments might offer some moderate relief, but do not solve the underlying problem. No matter what anyone tells you there are no "reef safe" medications that are also effective.

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