Crabs Are Evil Society

lcstorc

Well-Known Member
I believe Wit says shrimp are crab cousins with pretty clothes. Something like that anyway.
They certainly are good thieves. I haven't seen them go after anything live though. Just race after the food.
 

prow

Well-Known Member
I believe Wit says shrimp are crab cousins with pretty clothes. Something like that anyway.
They certainly are good thieves. I haven't seen them go after anything live though. Just race after the food.
heheh i like, pretty clothes idea. lol. i have had and seen a coral banned shrimp lunge at fish passing by. one time it got a clown just right and sliced it from its eye to its gill. it died almost instantly. stupid shrimp:guns:
 

leonick

New Member
how do you get rid of the crabs? mine are hairy gray colored crabs that come with the live rock. I have a small damsel and he just disappeared. did the crab get him? the two others are just fine.
 

lcstorc

Well-Known Member
The only way to get rid of the crabs is to hunt them or trap them. If the crab you have is a gorilla crab then it is entirely possible that it got your damsel if it was sleeping or slow to react.
 

lcstorc

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So this morning I was reading through Reef Invertebrates by Anthony Calfo and Robert Fenner. Here is the summary from the chapter on crabs. I'm not sure who wrote this part but they must have been hanging out with Witfull.

"We generally do not recommend crabs for mixed reef invertebrate systems. They are tipically better suited to fish-only or species-specific displays. Whatever scavenging benefits most have are outweighed by their potential to kill desirable fish and invertebrates. For aquarists seeking nuisance algae control, it is likely better to focus on improving nutrient export mechanisms and employing alternate herbivorous livestock like snails. The risk of most crabs in time to demonstrate their true omnivorous or even carnivorous tendencies is simply too great. It is especially ironic when an 'algae-grazing' crab is routinely inclined to kill and consume other algae-graxing invertebrates!"

Sounds like they belong to CAE~
:)
 

wonderloss

Member
I believe Wit says shrimp are crab cousins with pretty clothes. Something like that anyway.
They certainly are good thieves. I haven't seen them go after anything live though. Just race after the food.

I somewhat miss my skunk cleaner, but he was a little thief. It made it difficult to feed my rics. I do not think I will get another.

My peppermint stays out of the way. I hardly see him. However, he may be the reason that my lone aiptasia remains a lone aiptaisia, and not a huge problem. I have had it for almost a year, perhaps longer, but it is the only one in the tank. I have not seen another pop up anywhere. It has gotten fairly large, but I have not bothered to kill it since it is not causing problems.

Danger is my middle name.:whstlr:
 

amc78cj7

Member
Adding a new crab today (although technically not a crab):

Pink spotted Porcelain crab

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That means 40% of my tank inhabitants will now be crabs. :hallo:

1 Emerald
1 scarlet hermit
1 blue hermit
1 porcelain

All in a 24g reef tank.
 

wonderloss

Member
According to wikipedia

Porcelain crabs are decapod crustaceans in the family Porcellanidae, which superficially resemble true crabs. They are a good example of carcinisation, whereby a non-crab-like animal (in this case a relative of a squat lobster) evolves into an animal that only a specialist would know is not a true crab.
 

amc78cj7

Member

A little more from wikipedia Porcelain crab: - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Porcelain crabs can be distinguished from the true crabs by the apparent number of walking legs (three instead of four pairs, the fourth pair is actually hidden under the carapace), the apparent lack of a wrist (carpal) segment on the chelipeds, and long antennae originating on the front outside of the eye stalks.....Porcelain crabs share the general body plan of a squat lobster (Galatheidae), but their bodies are more compact and flattened, an adaptation for living and hiding under rocks, as well as squeezing into little nooks and crannies. The porcelain crabs are quite fragile animals, and will often shed their limbs, hence their name.
 

tjk72

New Member
My emerald crabs' hit list:
3 Peppermint shrimp
1 Six line wrasse
1 Poisoned pearly jawfish
1 Large branch of caulerpa
1 Porcelain crab
He is one bad mama jamma
 

amc78cj7

Member
My emerald crabs' hit list:
3 Peppermint shrimp
1 Six line wrasse
1 Poisoned pearly jawfish
1 Large branch of caulerpa
1 Porcelain crab
He is one bad mama jamma

That's too bad. Must be a bad apple. My emerald is older (fairly large) and is my favorite creature in the tank. He is out picking at rocks 24/7 and comes running to me when I open the lid to target feed. I've watched him stand right next to other crabs, shrimp, fish and snails and never go after them. He just minds his own business.

On the other hand, I did see the coral banded shrimp reach out at one of the clown fish today. He may have just been protecting his turf, don't know.
 

tjk72

New Member
Yeah i don't get it. Everyone i've talked to at the lfs's say they are passive but i've witnessed the carnage. THank goodness my orange spotted goby is still alive along with the skunk cleaner shrimp. I was able to get the crabs out. One of the bigger ones' legs fell off in the abduction but it didn't make me feel bad. Not sure what to do with them just yet.
 

vdituri

Well-Known Member
They are all individuals.
Some may just have a bad attitudes.

The availability of food may also play a part. I'm not saying overfeed, but the amount of established algae in your tank can make a difference.
 

Ri86

New Member
yeah. crabs are evil. I started out a small nano reef with only 12lbs of LR, and it had SIX crabs in it! Six! I had a do a serious purge. There is still one crab I can't get out, he is black and has red eyes. I call him Voldemort.
 
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