Still Can't Detect Nitrates or Phospates after 6 months

oakleyx

Active Member
Hi Everyone,

Its been 6 months of me starting my RSM 250 and I still can't detect Nitrates or Phosphates.

I've been using 2 bags of Chemi pure elite with purigen and doing water changes every 7 to 10 days.

I've tested Nitrates with the RS Nitrate Kit and the API and still non detectable.

My lights come on for 9 hours a day. My aquarium back wall and some of my glass is getting covered in that purple coraline algae. I still have a little green algae that covers the glass and substrate, but not too much.

Any advice?

Thanks
-Dan
 

fruit bat

Member
What no Nitrates????

Don't let it worry you, most reefers work very hard to keep Nitrates low, and Phosphates are best if un-detectable. The only downside to very low nitrates would be if you wanted to keep clams as they prefer a low level.
The Red Sea No3-Po4-X is designed specifically to REDUCE Nitrates and Phosphates so you definitely don't need this.

Undetectable levels are a result of good reef care and a balanced system, WELL DONE !!!!
 

Mischko

Member
Chemi pure elite with purigen is absorbing nitrates and phosphate pretty hardcore, specially when you don't have a big bio-load. This might change quite quick when you add more fish and start feeding them more, specially with froozen stuff. I am quite happy that even my Salarias goes mad on food flakes and pellets. Though, as I mentioned in another post, I am not quite the believer in having all zero levels. Very close to zero, but not totally zero.
 

fruit bat

Member
That's the beauty of this Forum, a great bunch of people from around the world with one common goal, to help each other enjoy perfect reef systems
 

Mischko

Member
True, this forum and members helped me a lot to gather information on this new hobby of mine. And it also good fun, I specially like to mock people with midget magnet cleaners.

<---- runs
 

rgslady

Member
Just reflecting on my own experience. I rarely get any nitrate reads with the API kits. Salifert testing shows completely different results, which I believe are closer to the real results.

Just my two cents...
 

Reefmack

NaClH2O Addicted
PREMIUM
This is old information I once got directly from API, but it probably still applies to their nitrates tests:

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I was very impressed with the quick responses I got from API, and my faith is restored in their test kits. I'll paste in the information from emails with API. Note - I was finally able to get a nitrate reading after following their directions:

"Thank you very much for contacting us regarding our products. All of
your comments and questions are valuable. We use your feedback to
create the most effective line of aquarium and pond products available.

Your solutions are not expired. Each reagent bottle has a Lot # printed
on the bottle. The last four digits are the month and year of
manufacture. Example: Lot # 28A0102. This is a pH reagent manufactured
in January of 2002. Pond Care Wide Range pH, ammonia, High Range pH,
Nitrate, phosphate, Copper, calcium and GH all last for three years.
nitrite and KH will last for four years. Freshwater pH(low range) and
Pond Care Salt Level will last for five years. I would not trust these
kits after they have expired.

Liquid Nitrate Test Kits from any manufacturer can have a common problem
with their last test solution. For some companies, it is bottle number
3, but for us it is bottle number 2. One of the ingredients wants to
solidify out of liquid solution. If the test bottle sits for any period
of time, this can happen. If this does happen and the test is performed
without Bottle # 2 mixed properly, then you can get a falsely low
reading. I have never heard of falsely high readings with Nitrate Kits.
I would try tapping your Bottle # 2 a few times on a table or counter
top. This should loosen-up anything that has solidified. Then I would
shake this bottle for about 2-3 minutes, to really mix it up. Try the
test again and hopefully this will fix your problem. With regular weekly
usage, this bottle should only need to be shaken for 30-60 seconds.

Always check results at the recommended duration of time. Letting the
tubes sit longer can result in falsely high levels."

I then asked if heating the nitrate test solution #2 would help get the material back into solution and got this reply:

"I don't think heating is necessary, plus I don't want to degrade the
chemicals in any way. Tapping your Bottle # 2 a few times on a table or
counter top and then shaking should be adequate, but you will
immediately know with the next test."

I then asked if the proper way to match the colors was to place the test tube directly on the card, or back it up a bit, since the color can get a little darker when placed directly on the card. Since the gentleman was being so honest with me, in admitting that there could be a problem with their test solutions (or anyone elses) I thought it would be courteous to ask if I could share this information in the forums I read:

"You do touch the test tube to the color card.

It will be ok for you to share the Nitrtae Test Information. It is a
problem that every manufacturer has and we are interested in the kit
working properly for the consumer. "

As I said, the nitrate test finally gave me an expected reading, and my faith is now restored in the test kits. And I am really impressed with any manufacturer that replies quickly, tells you that there could be a problem with their product, and tells you how to fix it!
 

oakleyx

Active Member
I finally detect nitrates. A little high at 20ppm(mg/L).

I think I should start going back to weekly water changes and replace my purigen.
 

RedSeaKev

RS Sponsor
Hi Folks, well late finding this post but there is something I needed to clear up, No3Po4-X is one product of a complete program and it is used to CONTROL the Algae Nutrients Nitrate and Phosphate, to the best of my knowledge it is the only product to date available where you can actually control the levels of these nutrients opposed to eliminating them ( please correct me if I'm wrong) to the advantage of Symbiotic Zooxathellae living in the tissues of many animals.

We had this program first in the UK and is proving to be very popular perfect for all you Max owners as well.
 
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