I have 3 #2s, and 3 #1s in my tank and for there performance, customer service and cost I love them. I have had them now for about 3 years so they are the older models. Yes they shutter and shake when started and sometimes jam and need a push to get going. So when I have to shut them off I always check to make sure the are running. Well about 3 weeks ago I shut them off, and when I restarted them took a look and all the propellers were turning, but after awhile I noticed 1 that I have set to angle up breaks the surface tention and gives the riple effect was not doing its job and even though the prop was turning I figured it is time for a cleaning, well one way I watch my flow in my tank is a over feeding of Mysis shrimp and watch how they flow around the tank. That Karolia was not moveing anything even though the prop was turning, YES in REVERSE, just needed a stop and go to get it pushing!!!! All this is FYI.