Willie McDaries
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that is all I ever got from what I've read about it,it is good for growing algae,I've never had any problems with growing algae without it LOL
Good old miracle mud....
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that is all I ever got from what I've read about it,it is good for growing algae,I've never had any problems with growing algae without it LOL
zchauvin
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Haha nice willie, at the store we do have a 180g show tank full of everything from frogspawn to acros and it uses miracle mud and is beautiful. Has also been running 6 years, perhaps all the silicon from mud is gone lol Idk. The only thing I can see is that it may work in a larger tank or environment but I'm not certain. Until I see real results I won't put it in my system just from the amounts of silicon in it.
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StirCrayzy
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If you are going to experiment, trust that it will take years to develop results under very strict regimented routine.
thats a lot of work, that most likely has already been done for you.
The key is finding the results that already exist, and compile the variables per system to prove MM worth/non.
And under what conditions it works or doesnt.
Im curious what you find, let us know.
thats a lot of work, that most likely has already been done for you.
The key is finding the results that already exist, and compile the variables per system to prove MM worth/non.
And under what conditions it works or doesnt.
Im curious what you find, let us know.
zchauvin
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Yes, I was determining what would need to be done in order to have control group and all those other good things and its a good bit.
I will continue to see what I can find
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zchauvin
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zchauvin
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No worries, this one tank won't make up my mind haha I was just showing one example.. Trust me you don't want to see the other tanks that use the same... Blahh, they are pathetic
Basile
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Well hello guys, i'm planing on using it in my system because i used it before in my biotope with seahorses and it did a good job. no issues. But it didn't do any harm at all. It may be an illusion to some but i got two canister for a $ 1.00 so i'll use it for the fuge since my interest is for like Paul the biological, the bacteria that the fuge is suppose to contain. after it is depleted it will be simply be part of the substrate for the macro-algae collection i'll be assembling thats all. I'm not going for the holly grale here, just the practical. If i didn't have it i wouldn't use it. But since the ocean is full of it, i don't think it can't be dismiss that easy. To claim its gona solve all your problems, is fallacy . A good jugement is required here nothing more.
Don Quixote
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Mud is great for freshwater, live sand is preferable in marine systems
I think you'll find the mud is very alive 
Mud is just silt + food particles + misc. An important thing to note, is that silt will become a DSB much shallower than sand. Not sure how shallow, but if the sole purpose were to denitrify without needing 4 inches, then maybe mud would suffice. Of course super fine oolitic sand is almost as fine too, and without the food particles.
Mud is just silt + food particles + misc. An important thing to note, is that silt will become a DSB much shallower than sand. Not sure how shallow, but if the sole purpose were to denitrify without needing 4 inches, then maybe mud would suffice. Of course super fine oolitic sand is almost as fine too, and without the food particles.
Basile
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I think you'll find the mud is very alive
Mud is just silt + food particles + misc. An important thing to note, is that silt will become a DSB much shallower than sand. Not sure how shallow, but if the sole purpose were to denitrify without needing 4 inches, then maybe mud would suffice. Of course super fine oolitic sand is almost as fine too, and without the food particles.
I'll be adding Two gallon of mud in my 75 G display fuge and cover it up with fine and medium sand to avoid storm , because i'll hace a collection of macro-algae for my seahorses on one side and one the ontherside sperated by a mesh Anglers. so 2 gallons won't even make an inch in that tank and i'll be having about 2" sand beb. Will it create conditions to have hydrogensulfite pockets anyway?
Is a good question... how deep mud must be to do that.
Basile
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Once the mud as been exausted of its food particles, + misc and it becomes what ordinary dirt with bacteria. If so why so many people go nuts againts it? Or worst wants to remove it and destroy the layers of existing bacteria, thats my biggest complaint about its use. When its part of your system leave it alone as far as i'm concern.