Thank you very much I have 12 pairs of snowflakes at the moment. The group of snowflakes is with mom in those pictures and they are with her cuz i needed them to stay as males lol. I have a pair occ female and snowflake male the majority of my fish are from tmc and dyer inc, I have had success rearing 9 snowflakes that are my own from my occ. And out of about 400 egss 4 to 6 babies come out snowflake but i dont know if there are more because of the death rate. But i have had the snowflake gene pass through to the offspring. I just got rid of 2 pairs in tampa and one in cleveland i dont know if i want to get rid of anymore I have about 12 left thanks again ill keep ya posted when I have more offspring thanks