HELP! White spot

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    This morning I spotted my gold rim tang had white spot I haven’t got a qt tank but have spoke to someone at a shop so will be there in morn to get the qt tank and treatment to help him, for now what can I do he’s breathing deeply and now looks limp and getting blown around the tank as look like he has not much energy I just need to get him through the night I did manage to pick up what’s in the pic to start helping
    Any advice would be great iv included pics of the poorly Tang too below, iv noticed his gills are red too
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    Sorry to say it but you should prepare for him to not make the night. If it’s ich or velvet he’s pretty far into it and I’d be concerned about others in your tank as it’ll spread fast
     
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    Typically, if you can count the white dots on the fish its usually Ich. However, if they are too numerous to count there's a good chance you are dealing with Velvet.

    The red gills could be due to ammonia burn or the gills are overloaded with parasites. A 5 min FW dip will provide temporary relief: https://humble.fish/freshwater-dip/

    Post dip, I would put him in a 5 gallon bucket with Methylene Blue: https://humble.fish/methylene-blue/

    That's the best you can probably do until you setup a proper QT. However, the FW dip might kill him if he's already become too weak.
     
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    Unfortunately he’s died
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Can you post some closeups of the dead body (showing the white spots)? It would be helpful to know whether he died from Ich or velvet.
     
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    Coral beauty doesn’t look too good now with what I can see has white spot also the clowns and 2 damsels I have, yellow tang and 5 chromis look ok and I can see it on my dragonet and sand softer but I’m fearing the worst
     

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    Now the tang is out I can’t see no signs of white spot like I did this morning
     
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    If spots are coming and going I’d lean towards ich because of the stages ich goes through.

    Of course I’d default to Humble’s advice over mine!
     
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    Velvet is a fast killer. When did signs start to show Luke?
     
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    This shows the difference between ich (1st photo) and velvet (2nd photo) on a Hippo Tang:

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    Foolishly I turned the lights off today to ease the stress on the tang but never noticed anything on the coral beauty till only when I went to get the tang out ..... looks like iv got velvet in my tank
     
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    Tomorrow I’m getting a 54L tank from a LFS what do you recommend picking up with it?
     
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    Read Humbles link, copper power is what I use and it looks like there are some pre QT steps you can take.

    what meds do you have available to you?
     
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    Unfortunately I have nothing to hand but will be at reefkeeper rugby waiting for it to open in the morning
     
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    Good luck Luke. Humbles link has all the jnfo you need, hopefully your store has the meds.

    If not, it’s good to get them to have on hand for the future.


    What other fish do you have in the tank?
     
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    Thank you...
    I have a
    Dragonet
    2 clowns
    1 yellow tang
    7 green chromis
    2 blue damsels
    1 coral beauty dawf angel
    1 gobies
     
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    1 blood shrimp
    2 cleaner shrimp
    Turbo snails
     
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    You're in the UK? If so, Copper Power will be hard to find. But Cupramine is usually readily available and will get the job done for Velvet. Treat at 0.5 mg/L for 30 days. However, the dragonet likely will not survive treatment and should be rehomed to a LFS or something. All corals/inverts shall remain in the DT, and I would leave the DT fallow (fishless) for 76 days.
     
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    You’re going to need a tank twice the size of the 54L one you mentioned if you’re going to keep the fish out of your Display for 2+ months. Even at 30 gallons it’ll require a good bit of ammonia monitoring. Try to pick up some biospira or other bacteria in a bottle, you’ll need it to jump start the bio filter. Transfer nothing from your display and do the FW dip at a min before the switch
     
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