Funlad3
Has been struck by the ban stick
Hello yet again RS! I keep hoping to not have to ever post here again, but that doesn't ever seem to happen, now does it...
Anyways, I'm finally bringing my QT out of hypo. In fact, it should finally get back into the 1.02_s over night; I've been dripping super-saline water in for the past 6 or 7 days. Before continuing, it's important to mention that I made the mistake of treating two fish together. I, of course, found out the hard way what could happen. I had a Moorish Idol in the same tank as a Coral Beauty angel. Both broke out with ich a few days into treatment, and the angel with some sort of body fungus shortly after that. I decided to treat the ich with hyposalinity before worrying about the fungus, as ich is the faster killer. I successfully treated the ich and kept the QT in hypo for another four weeks, as instructed per Lee's sticky. The night before I was going to start raising the salinity, the angel was on the way out.
It still had a patch of body fungus (positive it wasn't velvet) on it's "shoulder", it hadn't been eating for the previous six days, was horribly bloated in the front two thirds of the fish, skinny in the rear third of the fish, and had been having difficulty swimming upright and maintaining neutral buoyancy for the past three days. Needless to say, it was one sick fish.
Now, with the water in the QT almost back to a normal salinity, I'll soon be able to treat the Moorish Idol for whatever the Angel had. Seeing as it definitely had a fungal issue, I was planning on either methlyne blue (as a full tank treatment) or Maracyn for Saltwater fishes. The Idol has also been having a slightly hard time maintaining neutral buoyancy, although it's not even fractionally as bad as the Coral Beauty was. It merely starts to slowly float upwards, perfectly upright, if it stops swimming forwards. I assume that this is a result of internal bacterial infection, long term hyposalinity (relatively doubtful), or internal parasites.
Currently, the Idol doesn't have any visible fungus outside of it's streamer, and only then trace amounts towards the tip of it. It has been feeding extremely well on frozen mysis, frozen squid, and frozen clam. Before the tank went into hyposalinity, the Idol had also been able to graze on some live sponge I had procured, but I had to dispose of it when hypo started. I'm beginning to wonder if that too, as well as it's refusal of any vegetable matter, plays a role in the buoyancy issue.
Anyways, I'm curious what course of action I should take. If possible, I'd like to treat for fungal and bacterial infections at the same time, and I was under the impression that Maracyn would do that. Unfortunately, I was only able to find the API brand, E.M. Erythromycin. For whatever reason, the company says that its product will only treat mouth fungus, versus a full body fungus. Regardless, I can't afford to use a full cycle of "E.M. Erythromycin", as to treat a QT tank of my size, it would cost me over $40.
Instead, I'm leaning towards, if even possible, the use of Methylene Blue to treat the entire tank. I understand that Methylene Blue is usually used as a short term dip, but I'm uncomfortable administering a dip, unless it could be done in water directly from the QT. Unfortunately, I have no idea how I would even go about using MB, even as a dip, so any advice catering to that would be helpful and appreciated as well.
In conclusion, I'd like to know the following:
1. What possible ailments could the surviving Moorish Idol have?
2. What could successfully treat said ailments with the least amount of stress to the fish?
3. What can I be doing to give the Idol a better diet? Yes, I've read Lee's nutrition sticky.
4. Could Maracyn theoretically treat the Moorish Idol successfully?
5. Can Methylene Blue be used to treat a whole tank in the long term instead of as a bath?
6. How would one administer Methylene Blue as a bath, or a dip?
Thanks to whoever manages to get through reading all of this! I really do appreciate any and all help that you can provide.
I'll update this thread with water tests tomorrow once I've finished dripping in my super-saline ex-RO/DI and the tank has once again stabilized.
Again, thank you!
- Ben
Anyways, I'm finally bringing my QT out of hypo. In fact, it should finally get back into the 1.02_s over night; I've been dripping super-saline water in for the past 6 or 7 days. Before continuing, it's important to mention that I made the mistake of treating two fish together. I, of course, found out the hard way what could happen. I had a Moorish Idol in the same tank as a Coral Beauty angel. Both broke out with ich a few days into treatment, and the angel with some sort of body fungus shortly after that. I decided to treat the ich with hyposalinity before worrying about the fungus, as ich is the faster killer. I successfully treated the ich and kept the QT in hypo for another four weeks, as instructed per Lee's sticky. The night before I was going to start raising the salinity, the angel was on the way out.
It still had a patch of body fungus (positive it wasn't velvet) on it's "shoulder", it hadn't been eating for the previous six days, was horribly bloated in the front two thirds of the fish, skinny in the rear third of the fish, and had been having difficulty swimming upright and maintaining neutral buoyancy for the past three days. Needless to say, it was one sick fish.
Now, with the water in the QT almost back to a normal salinity, I'll soon be able to treat the Moorish Idol for whatever the Angel had. Seeing as it definitely had a fungal issue, I was planning on either methlyne blue (as a full tank treatment) or Maracyn for Saltwater fishes. The Idol has also been having a slightly hard time maintaining neutral buoyancy, although it's not even fractionally as bad as the Coral Beauty was. It merely starts to slowly float upwards, perfectly upright, if it stops swimming forwards. I assume that this is a result of internal bacterial infection, long term hyposalinity (relatively doubtful), or internal parasites.
Currently, the Idol doesn't have any visible fungus outside of it's streamer, and only then trace amounts towards the tip of it. It has been feeding extremely well on frozen mysis, frozen squid, and frozen clam. Before the tank went into hyposalinity, the Idol had also been able to graze on some live sponge I had procured, but I had to dispose of it when hypo started. I'm beginning to wonder if that too, as well as it's refusal of any vegetable matter, plays a role in the buoyancy issue.
Anyways, I'm curious what course of action I should take. If possible, I'd like to treat for fungal and bacterial infections at the same time, and I was under the impression that Maracyn would do that. Unfortunately, I was only able to find the API brand, E.M. Erythromycin. For whatever reason, the company says that its product will only treat mouth fungus, versus a full body fungus. Regardless, I can't afford to use a full cycle of "E.M. Erythromycin", as to treat a QT tank of my size, it would cost me over $40.
Instead, I'm leaning towards, if even possible, the use of Methylene Blue to treat the entire tank. I understand that Methylene Blue is usually used as a short term dip, but I'm uncomfortable administering a dip, unless it could be done in water directly from the QT. Unfortunately, I have no idea how I would even go about using MB, even as a dip, so any advice catering to that would be helpful and appreciated as well.
In conclusion, I'd like to know the following:
1. What possible ailments could the surviving Moorish Idol have?
2. What could successfully treat said ailments with the least amount of stress to the fish?
3. What can I be doing to give the Idol a better diet? Yes, I've read Lee's nutrition sticky.
4. Could Maracyn theoretically treat the Moorish Idol successfully?
5. Can Methylene Blue be used to treat a whole tank in the long term instead of as a bath?
6. How would one administer Methylene Blue as a bath, or a dip?
Thanks to whoever manages to get through reading all of this! I really do appreciate any and all help that you can provide.
I'll update this thread with water tests tomorrow once I've finished dripping in my super-saline ex-RO/DI and the tank has once again stabilized.
Again, thank you!
- Ben