you guys have been a GREAT help in getting us going Diana,Greg, Thank you guys and all of you for the likes and Whippitguy , Mrsalt and everyone else for your words of advice especially on the refractometer dilemma. The Sybon is awesome !!! Any ways just wanted to say THANKS for everything I/we enjoy reading the different forums for advice you guys and gals give on anything and everything fellow reefers have to ask about , your knowledge, and experiences are great learning tools for anyone that takes the time to read your posts and take your advice