HELP! Ich on tang, remove ALL fish? Newbie

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    Newbie on salt 7m, brought in a yellow tang who got ich (or had it). I set up. 20 gallon QT, and moved him in and started Cupramine treatment. My question is do I have to pull out the rest of my fish (2-Firefish, 2 small clowns, 1-wrass).

    If I do, do I put them all in the same QT and how would I acclimate them if the tank is already at the .5 therapeutic level?

    Most frustrating 7mo of my life!!!

    90 gallon reef ready tank, 20 gallon sump, 2-clowns, 2-firefish, 1 Wrasse, 1 pep shrimp, 1- BTA


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    Unfortunately, if one fish has Ich then that means the entire system is contaminated. Tomonts will be encysted to your rocks, substrate, glass, equipment, etc. and free swimmers will be in the water.

    The only way to eliminate this disease from your DT is to go fallow (fishless) for 76 days. This means catching all your fish and treating them with copper.

    You can setup a new QT and slowly raise the copper level with the rest of your fish. Or drip acclimate them into your current QT (where the copper level is already 0.5 ppm) and hope for the best.
     
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    Thank you very much for the quick response. And I can not treat my DT with copper
    Because of the shrimp? Feather Dusters, and BTA? Correct?


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    Correct

    And your rock would absorb a lot of the copper, causing the level to fluctuate.
     
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    Thanks again, I will try to hunt them down tonight, acclimate them and get them all in the QT tank.

    The feather dusters, Shrimo and BTA can’t get the parasite correct? So I can leave them in the DT?


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    Corals/inverts can play "host" to a different life stage of the parasite (tomont), but without fish to feed upon the subsequent stages will eventually starve to death. Tomonts do not harm corals/inverts; they just encyst to them for awhile. Once free swimmers are released from tomonts the latter dies. If a free swimmer cannot find a fish host, it too dies and that's how the life cycle gets broken.
     
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    Just wanted to say thanks again. All fish in QT are doing well, and patiently just waiting through the treatment cycle!


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    Good luck!
     
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    Spoke to soon. Lost a little clown. Levels are good, ammonia meter is between safe and alert, copper still at the .5 level.

    I get that sometimes fish just die, but anything special about a QT that I’m missing. I have 2 PVC connections for them to hide, although my 2 little clowns were always just swimming around. Stress going from a 90g to a 20g? Clostrophobia?


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    Regular water changes to keep ammonia in check.

    Yup, they can die in QT
     
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    What kind of biofilter are you running in QT? To help control ammonia.
     
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    I have an augua filter that is filled with Seachem Matrix that was in my HOB filter, then sitting in my sump. Per the seachem amonia badge, I’m still in safe levels.


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