HELP PLEASE..something is eating away my fish

[kouma]

Hello,

Recently my tank's temperature rose to 84 from 80 regular and after that some of my fish establish ick, however the size of the white spots was tiny and evenly covered my fishes. I thought since my fish is very healthy and my tank is established with good parameters I should wait it out and hope that the fish will rid the disease after of course regulating my tank's temp. This wishful thinking didn't help and I lost my 10" blue ring and a tang ..i am so sad. Now my emperor looks in a bad shape as well. When I inspected the dead fish it looks like something is eating away at their flesh and tails/fins.

I just finished lowering my salinity to 1.008. Please help me, I don't want to loose the rest of my fish.

 

[Woodstock]

Remove all fish and treat in a QT being sure to leave the main display fallow (fish free) for at least 8 weeks.
From the photo posted above, I cannot tell if it is ICH or possibly amyloodinium. Hyposalinity ONLY cures ICH.
Please post a close up photo if possible.

Please read:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/23132-marine-ich-myths-facts.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...nts/23131-hyposalinity-treatment-process.html
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums.../23584-fish-quarantine-process-step-step.html
Marine Fish Diseases and Parasites

 

[kouma]

I looked at some diseases and it seems like I have Brooklynella. How can I treat that?

 

[kouma]

I have lost my emperor and now my blue face is having blotches on its body and swiming weird..PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD DO TO SAVE THEM..I don't want to lose any more

 

[lcstorc]

Step one is identifying the problem and we need more info to even try to do that. The only general thing I can think of is to reduce stress by limiting the movement around the tank and dimming or even turning off the tank lights and leave just room light for the fish to see by. Be sure you are providing healthy foods and good water parameters.
To help with specifics post your water parameters, system filtration, feeding routine and foods given. Basically anything and everything you can think of about your system. Even the smallest thing can make a difference in treatment.
Meanwhile, I would ste up a QT if you have not already. Don't move the fish yet since depending on the problem it may not be necessary and is stressful on the fish but most treatments require a QT to treat and you should have one regardless.
Pictures, pictures pictures. Close ups and as many angles of the fish as you can get. Sometimes you can see things in a head on photo that you don't see on a side shot etc.

 

[kouma]

they are all dead..i hate this hobby..everything is okay for months then in one day this BS happens..i am out

 

[leebca]

What this hobby is most demanding on the hobbyist is patience and understanding. I don't know your level of patience, but there is a definite lack of understanding.

It isn't uncommon for hobbyists to be misled by those who sell equipment and marine life. As a generality I'd say:

1. The fish were infected quite early on;
2. The disease was not brooklynellosis;
3. The fish were surviving, but not thriving in the environment provided (that is, everything was not alright);
4. The temperature excursion just brought everything, at pretty much the same time, to the critical point of overcoming the already infected fishes. Fish won't live on the edge for long. When a large stressor comes along, they often succomb.

You do have the opportunity to start over properly. But this time with more knowledge and understanding. If you do choose to start over, please read through the 'sticky' posts in this forum for the information you may be missing.

 

[kouma]

Hi Lee,

My environment was good from my understanding. All my levels were 0 and my tank was established for almost a year. I fed my fish a mixture of flakes (formula 1 and 2), krill, and brine shrimp al diluted in water and zeocon. Also I always feed roasted seaweed and occasionally I feed clams and pieces of shrimp.

I have experience (thanks to this forum) in treating ICH and I have done so couple of times using hyposalinity. However, this disease was something I haven't seen before. It kills a fish in 1-2 days max. It starts by the fish getting a cloudy eye with some white stuff on it. Then the fish looses color and starts getting white blotches or mucus loss on their skin. Then finally the tail and fins start getting eaten like the pic above. This happened to all my angels. I only have my two tangs and lion fish left. But my angels were the favorite and I got really attached to them.

What is this disease? I did a google search and Brooklynella seemed to resemble what I am facing.

I gave up on tropical fish. I am thinking once everything dies, I will just start over with a shark or baraccuda.

How would you suggest I start over? empty my tank from all the water and start with new water? or just leave it fishless for like 1-2 months?

 

[leebca]

Brook and Marine Velvet kill very quickly. The main difference is no spots at all with Brook. Small (tiny) spots with MV. Those spots are so small it may take a few of them to be easily seen. But since they cover the fish quickly, it gives the fish a 'sheen' for a short time before the other symptoms and death sets in. Quarantine would avoid this getting into the display system. Once in the display system, it usually kills all fishes.

Since the disease is unknown, clean the tank, equipment, and all hardware (nets, etc.) following the third procedure here: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/31684-tank-cleanup-procedures.html. Don't keep substrate or live rock or any equipment hard to clean.

After doing the above, everything should dry out a few days, then you're ready to start again. Just go slowly. I recommend this process: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...arting-your-first-fo-fowlr-marine-system.html which is slower than most -- just to be conservative about the disease.

Nutrition wasn't optimized. The post on nutrition will explain why flakes are not preferred, roasted (cooked) foods are not recommended, and the need for vitamin and fat food supplements. Read through this:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...eeding-marine-fish-marine-fish-nutrition.html
and
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums...41782-how-feed-macro-alage-marine-fishes.html

You write "0" were your test results, but that's not all that makes up water quality. What is the alkalinity, calcium, magnesium? How are micro elements replenished? and all these other things:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/34037-what-water-quality.html

If you plan to skip quarantine, then a single fish/marine life form would be a good idea.

We're here to help. Good luck.