Glowing Fish!

fidojoe

Fish Addict
Hmmm, another reason to keep my fw tank up, but the only concern I have is the effect the stuff they use to make them glow has on the fish itself, and the environment.
 

SaltyQueen

Member
Horrible- absolutely horrible... I cannot beleive people would buy a genetically altered animal just becuase it looks cool. Imagine ALL the hundreds, probably thousands of fish that were killed or tortured during the process of making this "new & improved" fish. Appalling....
 

Witfull

Well-Known Member
the average not entusiest tank keeper will unfortunately buy them, ever see you fast painted glass fish and painted skirt tetras sell? and how much they sell for? the kids see pretty colors and mom and dad buy them for inflated prices. its sad but true.
 

fidojoe

Fish Addict
I was only joking about buying them, I am taking my FW down next paycheck:D and starting my nano in there. I won't support it unless it is scientifically proven that these fish will not be affected in any way by the "glow" effect, even tho I won't have another FW tank for a while.
 

Witfull

Well-Known Member
it wasn't a knock at you joe, i was in the business for over 10yrs and i know what sold, its just a sad commentary on fish retail and the average buyer.
 

fidojoe

Fish Addict
I figured it wasn't, I actually tried to make that 1st post look sarcastic, but forgot the smileys:bigblue:
 

Aquatic Cat

New Member
This type of thing has been done for decades you know with tetras,the dye they inject too make them more colorfull.
 
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ScottT1980

Well-Known Member
Here is a comment I made on the "Really Crazy" thread:

Originally posted by fidojoe
Thats kinda cool, but cruel at the same time, I wonder how it affects the animal:confused:

It would not affect the animal (well, from a pain standpoint if that is what you are reffering to). Genetic transfers or transgenic animals are altered at the embryonic level, typically when the embryo is in the one cell stage up to the 8 cell stage.

This is not cloning, just a little genetic alteration. In fact, this is done daily in many of our domesticated species. FWIW, there is great hesitation to utilize transgenic livestock for our foodstuffs, and for good reason. THe liklihood of it hurting us is slim but any chance is really not worth taking, although we all have probably eaten transgenic crops.

I don't see this as a slippery slope by any means. Almost all of the scientific community knows that human cloning is unethical and that presently, human genetic alteration (say for inherited diseases) is unethical because the proper research has not been put into such, and perhaps never will. Of course, there are a few @#$@!#$ in the world that go and do embryo research (typically in China) that has never been validated and ends up killing fetuses in the first trimester.

Here is an article presenting some good in the area of transgenics (just one of many examples). Not edible at this point for reasons mentioned above but it certainly shows the potential benefits.

In fact, go here for days and days of biotechnology reading.

EDIT: I didn't mention that I do have HUGE problem with this transgenic fish going into the wild (for obvious reasons).
 

Brandon G

New Member
Horrible- absolutely horrible... I cannot beleive people would buy a genetically altered animal just becuase it looks cool. Imagine ALL the hundreds, probably thousands of fish that were killed or tortured during the process of making this "new & improved" fish. Appalling....

I hope you do understand the process of this. they take a gene from a jellyfish the one that makes it glow, they then insert this gene into the embryo of that fish and then they glow. there is no torture and there was no fish killed.
 

Brandon G

New Member
they dont inject dye into these fish. they take a stran that generates in all jellyfish that make them transparent and glow in deep dark waters and inject this gene into the embryo of these fish. then they become 'Glow Fish'
 

GlassMunky

Active Member
I hope you do understand the process of this. they take a gene from a jellyfish the one that makes it glow, they then insert this gene into the embryo of that fish and then they glow. there is no torture and there was no fish killed.

I hope you understand that you brought back a 7+ year old thread.....
 

Pez

Member
Ahhhhh... an ethics debate. personally I see nothing wrong with genetically engineering an animal as long as it mutation doesn't harm it. as fore the inflated price, that's just good buisness and as long as the buyers are happy with their purchase, who cares. If anything it helps to keep the all important LFS in buisness. I personally wouldn't buy them because i think they look silly.
 
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