zoanthid killers

jg2269jg

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Hey Guys i have a big problem i have a bunch of really nice zoanthids and recently they just stoped opening and now they are dieing off and i have been looking for the reason. Today i found these little shrimp like things they are yellow-orange and they have what looks like tentacles on the end. Does anyone have a clue what i am talking about or what i am saying. Does anyone have any ideas what to do. I have been picking out the ones i see PLEASE HELP I AM DESPERATE

Sorry i spell terribly
 

Warnberg

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Be aware that Zoanthid eating nudi's are not all the same color. When I had them they looked just like the picture when I first found them, after further investigation they turned green (the color of the Zoanthid colony they where eating). Also if you have them you need to dip all your Zoanthids.

Each and every zoo that goes into my tank, healthy or not, gets a dip. This dip has worked for most every ailments my zoos have had. Some will require a bit of surgery and in some rare cases where I have received a colony with a very nasty fungus, I have deviated slighlty and placed several drops of Lugols Iodine directly onto the infected colony after a bit of surgery. I see that a lot of people are dealing with the whitish, opaque to yellowish fungus or some sort on your colonies. For some reason this happens alot during shipment and I'm sure a lot of you will concur. The key to saving a colony with this issue is to act immediately. You must remove all of the fungus with tweezers outside of your tank. Now using a very sharp razor blade, cut down and around the entire area that was affected. If you have a large rock and you want to be sure that you have irradicated the problem, remove 2 or 3 rows of good zoos around the area that was infected. Rinse the colony well with tank water using a turkey baster or the like, still outside of your reef, now perform the dip with the dipping brew below. I sent it to someone last week so i just copied and pasted it below.

"Here's the dipping brew that I have used and most people on RC are using it now as well. If it is performed as soon as you see the signs in the proper manner, success is always attained.

1. Using a 5 gallon white bucket, add 3 gallons of RO water.
2. Now add 1 or 2 drops of Lugol's Iodine per gallon of RO water.
3. Set your PH to 8.2
4. Set your water temp. at 78 degrees
5. If you have some Flatworm exit made my Saliferts, add
2 drops per gallon to the RO water to kill any Flatworms

Place the colony in the white bucket right side up. Leaving it there for about 5 minutes. Then grab the rock and invert it and place it in the water 3 inches below the water surface. Now twist the rock as fast as you can in a clockwise and counterclockwise motion for at least a minute. While the rock was sitting still in the RO water, it was killing off all bristle worms, Nudibranchs, flatworms and parasites. It will not kill off any Nudibranch eggs so you will have to inspect the rock for what looks like a tiny white 1/8 of and inch curly white piece of thread. They won't detach from the rock as the sack is very sticky. Inside this egg sack is up to 40 or so eggs just waiting to hatch. If you see one, just remove it with tweezers before placing the rock back into your reef. By the way, once you have finished twisting the rock in the water for a full minute, pull it out the water and dunk it back into the water a few times, splashing and swooshing is good, it dislodges anything that didn't fall off in the twisting motion. You are going to kill off a few copepds as well, but this is ok, as you have tons more already in your reef tank and your sump/fug. The dip will not kill your zoos, trust me, if you do exactly as stated above, you will be fine. If your colony is in declined and has been for some time, it may be too late to save them, but if you always do a dip on the first or second day of the problem, I have had a 99 % success rate at saving my own. I don't care what anyone else says, I know what has and will always work for the above issues. Zoos are all I know and I truly like to help out if and when I can.

Oh, I forgot, once you place the colony back into your reef, make sure they receive some current as they will be a little stressed and might slim a little, but that's ok, they will be fine. Your zoos will open in minutes.Always, ....always run your actinics only for the rest of that day. Actinics will encourage them to open. Try not to introduce any food into the system as well until the following day. On the following day, go back to your normal photoperiod. As I said, the zoos will be a little stressed and your 10 or 12k lighting will only try to encourage them to fully expand when they really don't want to right now because of what they have just experienced. I believe the bright lighting after a dip has and will discourage them from opening as soon. Trust me, you will not kill them.
 

jg2269jg

Member
Great links thanks for all the help guys. Warnberg you are so smart thanks for all the help. It is great to know that i am not alone in this hobby i can get on my computer and there are all of you very smart hobbiests out there to help
 

jg2269jg

Member
hey warnberg would that dip have any effects on any other corals because i have a leather coral on the same big rock as zoas and also green star polyps on another rock with zoas
 

Warnberg

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I don't know, I've never used it on anything but Zoanthids... remember this is fresh water... Zoanthids are really very hearty and can stand wide ranges in salinity, I have not checked if leathers, green star polyps or anything else could handle the dip.
 

jg2269jg

Member
Hi i am sorry to bring this up again but i was wondering if anyone knew of something like a shrimp or a fish that would eat the zoanthid killing nubibranches
Warnsberg, Witfull i need serious help
I tried the dip and pulled apart my reef and i look in today and they are back
i hate these little demons
 

Warnberg

Well-Known Member
I have heard that a 6 line or a yellow coris wrasse may help keep them in check, but they are toxic little dudes so not sure about anything that will completely eradicate them. The biggest issue is you can dip your Zoanthids and get the live ones, but the eggs survive the dip and are very sticky. I had an infestation at one time, lucky my Zoanthids where on small rock rubble. So I dipped and inspected, waited about 2 weeks and did it again and two weeks later I did it again. I haven't had a Zoanthid eating nudi in there sense and my Zoanthids have taken over one end of my tank almost.
 

lcstorc

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Maybe a 6 line. They eat lots of stuff around the tank, but I have not had these nudis yet to say for sure.
 
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