ThomastheTexan
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I have a tang is stress ich over night pretty much a few things No i dont have a medical tank Yes its a reeftank with just polyps and mushrooms and shrimp I am looking for a Good treatment under these conditions ....
Emergency ich treatment
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saltycity
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The best treatment is good water quality and proper diet. Most healthy fish in clean water will recover. Hard part is finding healthy fish. Tank breed fish are available most of the time and seem to do much better as the import process is very hard on the WC fish. Seems that a lot of the problem is the loss of gut flora from the lack of food during the import process. Live foods will help as the live food will have flora in their systems.
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Here you'll get more assistance.
Spend some time looking at
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
and as is already stated.. there are NO short cuts to cure this!
Here you'll get more assistance.
Spend some time looking at
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
and as is already stated.. there are NO short cuts to cure this!
Thomas,
Sorry to hear of the problem. First, you want to be sure it is in fact Marine Ich. Start by reading this, which will first help you determine if it is Marine Ich and then tell you what you'll need to do:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
Diet nor the health of the fish will prevent nor cure it of Marine Ich.
Sorry to hear of the problem. First, you want to be sure it is in fact Marine Ich. Start by reading this, which will first help you determine if it is Marine Ich and then tell you what you'll need to do:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html
Diet nor the health of the fish will prevent nor cure it of Marine Ich.
saltycity
Member
"Diet nor the health of the fish will prevent nor cure it of Marine Ich"
Yes you must be right. I am sure copper treatments and low leavels of salt happen all the time in the ocean and save the oceans of their parasites. Not saying I am a expert or anything but I think I have had a different experience with my fish and tank over the last 15 years.
Yes you must be right. I am sure copper treatments and low leavels of salt happen all the time in the ocean and save the oceans of their parasites. Not saying I am a expert or anything but I think I have had a different experience with my fish and tank over the last 15 years.
Your uninformed and what I might assume to be snide remark is just that.
In the ocean, the fish swims away from the parasite. Up to 30% of the population of fishes have the disease, in certain areas that have been studied. They are NOT cured nor become parasite free by eating or being healthy, they simply get away from more infecting parasites. At different times of the year, that population of infected fishes comes and goes. Tagged infected fishes are later caught miles away, found both uninfected and sometimes infected -- healthy and eating.
Few fish in the wild die from this disease. It's a poor parasite that kills its host. In the wild, the fish sometimes looses its infection by getting away from the parasites it helps reproduce, or the tidal/sea currents carry them away.
In the aquarium, that doesn't work. Our aquariums are not a bit of the ocean and when held in a captive environment, fishes become a buffet for parasites.
Your experience is anecdotal. If you can't see the above and have not done research, you are as I began, uniformed. You want us to take your word for it. But when you AND OTHERS have scientifically identified the parasite, used the product you think is good, then scientifically search the fish for the parasite, can it be told the product worked or didn't work. So far, none on the market have passed this simple test, but you want us to believe in your tank the product works. I have taken fishes just like you claim to be 'immune' or 'parasite free' and find them, under a microscope, to be infected. I have tried to boost their immune response (also by injection) and overfed super quality foods, to no success. When their skin is craped, their tail fin clipped and their gill clipped, the parasite is still there.
The parasite keeps on draining energy from the fish, no matter how much or well the fishes are fed or cared for, in the captive environment.
I won't continue this topic with you, but it should be known to those who are new in the hobby that there is no scientific evidence that even comes close to your 'experience.' And I will post my posts in those threads, in this Forum, where such misinformation is posted. Contact a professional ornamental marine fish veterinarian for further information, read appropriate journals, or go to extended educational college classes for the facts, if you can't get into what I have presented from my research.
In the ocean, the fish swims away from the parasite. Up to 30% of the population of fishes have the disease, in certain areas that have been studied. They are NOT cured nor become parasite free by eating or being healthy, they simply get away from more infecting parasites. At different times of the year, that population of infected fishes comes and goes. Tagged infected fishes are later caught miles away, found both uninfected and sometimes infected -- healthy and eating.
Few fish in the wild die from this disease. It's a poor parasite that kills its host. In the wild, the fish sometimes looses its infection by getting away from the parasites it helps reproduce, or the tidal/sea currents carry them away.
In the aquarium, that doesn't work. Our aquariums are not a bit of the ocean and when held in a captive environment, fishes become a buffet for parasites.
Your experience is anecdotal. If you can't see the above and have not done research, you are as I began, uniformed. You want us to take your word for it. But when you AND OTHERS have scientifically identified the parasite, used the product you think is good, then scientifically search the fish for the parasite, can it be told the product worked or didn't work. So far, none on the market have passed this simple test, but you want us to believe in your tank the product works. I have taken fishes just like you claim to be 'immune' or 'parasite free' and find them, under a microscope, to be infected. I have tried to boost their immune response (also by injection) and overfed super quality foods, to no success. When their skin is craped, their tail fin clipped and their gill clipped, the parasite is still there.
The parasite keeps on draining energy from the fish, no matter how much or well the fishes are fed or cared for, in the captive environment.
I won't continue this topic with you, but it should be known to those who are new in the hobby that there is no scientific evidence that even comes close to your 'experience.' And I will post my posts in those threads, in this Forum, where such misinformation is posted. Contact a professional ornamental marine fish veterinarian for further information, read appropriate journals, or go to extended educational college classes for the facts, if you can't get into what I have presented from my research.
saltycity
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Not trying to mislead anyone or be a jerk or anything just have had sucess with "curing" fish of ick without those procedures (copper or low salt). I am not saying ick is not present in my system but what I can tell you is that they show no sign of ick without those treatments. Maybe my definition of "cured" is different from yours but what I can offer is picture after picture of survivors of ick using other methods. Not talking about things I have read or have learned in school just things I have seen with my own two eyes over the last 15 years. sorry if what I write bothers you.