Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit - Page 2

JWarren · 02-23-2008, 06:23 PM

My old one that I built about 8 years ago was a lot slower with a 75 gal. membrain, but it did the job!

The new one is much faster and I love the John Guest connectors!

Two years is good for a membrain. Hopefully mine will last that long. Time will tell!

JWarren · 03-16-2008, 01:46 AM

Just an update for the thread.

Source water 300 PPM.

Gallons of water produced to date: 154

RO water @ 22C/71.6F 32 PPM.

RO/DI water @ 27C/80.6F 0 PPM.

Ratio waste to good:
1.5 to 1

It's been almost a month since the purchase of this unit. Purchased on Feb. 20, 2008. Still working great.

metweezer · 03-16-2008, 07:50 PM

John,
I also plan on purchasing the typhoon III from these guys and I also found out that they are in Fort Pierce (one town above me). I might just get the typhoon. My water pressure is about 65 lbs. I have a water pressure gauge and also have a TDS meter so maybe I don't need the typhoon III. My tanks are smaller than yours. DT 29 gal and the QT 10 gal. I asked Don whether I should use the 75 or 100 GPD unit and he said for purity get the 75 and for quantity to get the 100. Since my tanks are so small I will probably go with the 75 GPD unit.
Steve

P.S. Awesome picks of your tank critters.

JWarren · 03-16-2008, 10:37 PM

Steve,

So far I am very happy with the one I got. I drove down from Vero And picked it up from them. Nice bunch of people!

prow · 03-17-2008, 05:57 AM

metweezer, i have the typoon 3 with a 75gal/day RO membrane on my 150gal setup and will be using it on my new setup-about 250gal. unless you need to use and/or top off 50gal a day or something like that i would get a 75gal/day setup. trust me it will save you big time on DI resigns compared vs a 100gal/day RO membrane.

i would also suggest you get a unit with a pressure gauge. the gauge measures the pressure after the RO membrane, the source pressure could be 65lbs but you want to keep on eye on the pressure going through the RO membrane. once the membrane is used up and its time for a new one the pressure coming out of the membrane will decrease even though the source water (water going into the RO membrane) does not. did that make since?

prow · 03-17-2008, 06:04 AM

o john i must thank you. i have a older unit. my unit had just a restrictor. it had a seperate fastflush setup. more tubing and valves to bypass the restrictor. now they have a combo restrictor flush valve. i seen it in your setup and had to have it

i got it a last week and man it cleanup the extra tubbing, looks much better

JWarren · 03-17-2008, 01:03 PM

Cool! You get an Atta - Boy for that one! Good eye man!

metweezer · 03-17-2008, 05:32 PM

Thanks Prow How do you determine how much of the water is being wasted? Is there a gauge that shows the amount of rejected water?
Steve

JWarren · 03-17-2008, 08:34 PM

Steve,

For every gallon of DI water I make I loose 1 1/2 gallons to waste.

I run the waste water off into a bucket and water the plants with it. They love it.

I get a 1 to 1 ratio if I am only making RO drinking water. I measured mine with a measuring graduate.

Hey nice avatar!

prow · 03-18-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metweezer

Thanks Prow How do you determine how much of the water is being wasted? Is there a gauge that shows the amount of rejected water?
Steve

no prob glad to help
i use my extra water for cloths washing and the yard. only check the ratio once. i have since changed RO membranes but imagine its about the same. that would about the same as John is getting. when i did check i used a 2.5 gallon water bottle (just happens to be what i had on hand) for product water and 5 gallon bottle for watse. i geusstimated it at about a 1:1 to a 1:1.5 ratio. i think its better now though. i think i will check it and report back.

i will tell you one thing, not on the ratio but productioin rate (gal/day). i am filling my new 180gal with my unit right now and not even one day has passed and its about 3/4 full. thats alot more than 75gal/day my membrane is supposed to produce. product water TDS is 0 source water is 278. from the looks in a 24 hours period (another 6-8 hours for me)the 180gal will be full. FYI; there are no rocks or anything in the tank yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWarren

Cool! You get an Atta - Boy for that one! Good eye man!

- just goes to show you, you never what you will end up getting out of a thread. good stuff i tell ya

metweezer · 03-18-2008, 07:01 PM

What are you guys putting your RO/DI water in? Do you have auto shutoffs? John, I went to the Vero fish store today and by his own admission he didn't have much fish. He said by Wednesday or Thursday he will have a lot more fish. I like buying fish online anyway as they come with a 14 day guarantee. BTW John, I sent you a PM. Thanks for the info Prow & John
Steve

P.S. That's not an Avitar, it's how I look in the morning staring at my tank.

JWarren · 03-18-2008, 07:19 PM

Steve,

I put my unit out on the back porch. I don't use an auto shutoff, I set a timer. Takes 14 min to make one gallon with my unit and water pressure. I have six gallon plastic jugs that I picked up at wall mart about 10 years ago, can't find them now. You can use a 5 gallon plastic gas jug as long as it is brand new and never seen gas. Walmart had a deal on them not too long ago at St lucie west for 3.00 a piece. I got two.

If you plan on putting your unit inside your house I would recommend getting a shut off, so you don't have a run over. You can rig a auto shut off to a 5 gallon bucket.

I told you about the guy in Vero, he dosent hav a lot of stock right now, but he can get you just about anything you want. I try to keep it local if I can.

prow · 03-18-2008, 07:42 PM

mine is hooked up to my kalk reactor then to sump for auto top off. but everything is getting changed up. i had a little help with the plan. this is how i plan on doing it now. RO/DI-kalk reactor auto top off plans. what do ya think?

tbittner · 03-19-2008, 07:36 AM

I have the big typhoon and I drilled a hole in the side of a 44g brute trash can. I installed the float switch that came with the unit, into this hole and attached everything up. When the can gets full, the unit stops processing water. It's been up and running for 9 months now and has never failed. This is an awesome RO/DI unit.

Air, Water, and Ice was there for me during the installation too. And my questions were just for info, such as, "Can I run the waste line UP in order to get to the house drain line?". Answer "Yes, but for every foot of rise in the drain line, will take 1.5 psi away from production of DI water." (this is based on my memory so it's probably not exact

)

So not only did they answer the question, they told me what the ramifications will be. I highly recommend them for an RO/DI unit.

Lee · 06-11-2008, 05:06 PM

John, is the waste drain line on this thing pressurized? (or does the drain hose need to slope downward?) I assume it is pressurized the same as the RO/DI water line, but wanted to be sure. The drain I'm using is an open PVC pipe that my washer drains into, but its up a few feet.

I just ordered this same unit today. Looking forward to it.

02-23-2008, 06:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit My old one that I built about 8 years ago was a lot slower with a 75 gal. membrain, but it did the job! The new one is much faster and I love the John Guest connectors! Two years is good for a membrain. Hopefully mine will last that long. Time will tell! __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-16-2008, 01:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Just an update for the thread. Source water 300 PPM. Gallons of water produced to date: 154 RO water @ 22C/71.6F 32 PPM. RO/DI water @ 27C/80.6F 0 PPM. Ratio waste to good: 1.5 to 1 It's been almost a month since the purchase of this unit. Purchased on Feb. 20, 2008. Still working great. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-16-2008, 07:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
metweezer Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit John, I also plan on purchasing the typhoon III from these guys and I also found out that they are in Fort Pierce (one town above me). I might just get the typhoon. My water pressure is about 65 lbs. I have a water pressure gauge and also have a TDS meter so maybe I don't need the typhoon III. My tanks are smaller than yours. DT 29 gal and the QT 10 gal. I asked Don whether I should use the 75 or 100 GPD unit and he said for purity get the 75 and for quantity to get the 100. Since my tanks are so small I will probably go with the 75 GPD unit. Steve P.S. Awesome picks of your tank critters. __________________ 1) Do or do not, there is no try. (Yoda) 2) To be or not to be... This is a question?

03-16-2008, 10:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Steve, So far I am very happy with the one I got. I drove down from Vero And picked it up from them. Nice bunch of people! __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-17-2008, 05:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit metweezer, i have the typoon 3 with a 75gal/day RO membrane on my 150gal setup and will be using it on my new setup-about 250gal. unless you need to use and/or top off 50gal a day or something like that i would get a 75gal/day setup. trust me it will save you big time on DI resigns compared vs a 100gal/day RO membrane. i would also suggest you get a unit with a pressure gauge. the gauge measures the pressure after the RO membrane, the source pressure could be 65lbs but you want to keep on eye on the pressure going through the RO membrane. once the membrane is used up and its time for a new one the pressure coming out of the membrane will decrease even though the source water (water going into the RO membrane) does not. did that make since? __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-17-2008, 06:04 AM	#21 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit o john i must thank you. i have a older unit. my unit had just a restrictor. it had a seperate fastflush setup. more tubing and valves to bypass the restrictor. now they have a combo restrictor flush valve. i seen it in your setup and had to have it i got it a last week and man it cleanup the extra tubbing, looks much better __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-17-2008, 01:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Cool! You get an Atta - Boy for that one! Good eye man! __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-17-2008, 05:32 PM	#23 (permalink)
metweezer Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Thanks Prow How do you determine how much of the water is being wasted? Is there a gauge that shows the amount of rejected water? Steve __________________ 1) Do or do not, there is no try. (Yoda) 2) To be or not to be... This is a question?

03-17-2008, 08:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Steve, For every gallon of DI water I make I loose 1 1/2 gallons to waste. I run the waste water off into a bucket and water the plants with it. They love it. I get a 1 to 1 ratio if I am only making RO drinking water. I measured mine with a measuring graduate. Hey nice avatar! __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-18-2008, 07:01 PM	#26 (permalink)
metweezer Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Posts: 23 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit What are you guys putting your RO/DI water in? Do you have auto shutoffs? John, I went to the Vero fish store today and by his own admission he didn't have much fish. He said by Wednesday or Thursday he will have a lot more fish. I like buying fish online anyway as they come with a 14 day guarantee. BTW John, I sent you a PM. Thanks for the info Prow & John Steve P.S. That's not an Avitar, it's how I look in the morning staring at my tank. __________________ 1) Do or do not, there is no try. (Yoda) 2) To be or not to be... This is a question? Last edited by metweezer : 03-18-2008 at 07:03 PM. Reason: more info

03-18-2008, 07:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit Steve, I put my unit out on the back porch. I don't use an auto shutoff, I set a timer. Takes 14 min to make one gallon with my unit and water pressure. I have six gallon plastic jugs that I picked up at wall mart about 10 years ago, can't find them now. You can use a 5 gallon plastic gas jug as long as it is brand new and never seen gas. Walmart had a deal on them not too long ago at St lucie west for 3.00 a piece. I got two. If you plan on putting your unit inside your house I would recommend getting a shut off, so you don't have a run over. You can rig a auto shut off to a 5 gallon bucket. I told you about the guy in Vero, he dosent hav a lot of stock right now, but he can get you just about anything you want. I try to keep it local if I can. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

03-18-2008, 07:42 PM	#28 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit mine is hooked up to my kalk reactor then to sump for auto top off. but everything is getting changed up. i had a little help with the plan. this is how i plan on doing it now. RO/DI-kalk reactor auto top off plans. what do ya think? __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

03-19-2008, 07:36 AM	#29 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit I have the big typhoon and I drilled a hole in the side of a 44g brute trash can. I installed the float switch that came with the unit, into this hole and attached everything up. When the can gets full, the unit stops processing water. It's been up and running for 9 months now and has never failed. This is an awesome RO/DI unit. Air, Water, and Ice was there for me during the installation too. And my questions were just for info, such as, "Can I run the waste line UP in order to get to the house drain line?". Answer "Yes, but for every foot of rise in the drain line, will take 1.5 psi away from production of DI water." (this is based on my memory so it's probably not exact ) So not only did they answer the question, they told me what the ramifications will be. I highly recommend them for an RO/DI unit. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

06-11-2008, 05:06 PM	#30 (permalink)
Lee Ricordea Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 195 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Air Water and Ice Typhoon RO/DI Unit John, is the waste drain line on this thing pressurized? (or does the drain hose need to slope downward?) I assume it is pressurized the same as the RO/DI water line, but wanted to be sure. The drain I'm using is an open PVC pipe that my washer drains into, but its up a few feet. I just ordered this same unit today. Looking forward to it.

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