I want a clam!?

Reefaholic · 02-18-2005, 07:46 PM

Where are some places to look, I have checked clams direct, they have really nice stuff. They seemed out of stock on maximas, any other good places to look?

Travis · 02-18-2005, 08:55 PM

http://www.reefsanctuary.com/index.php?&page=sponsors

Of those, I know Sharky's definitely sells clams and gets rave reviews. Maximas seem hard to come by these days. Anyone know why?

Reefaholic · 02-18-2005, 10:13 PM

I read somewhere that they where really over sold, and that they will have a good selection in about 7-8 months. Maybe I should get a derasa.

Craig Manoukian · 02-19-2005, 09:46 AM

My LFS has had a tougher time lately getting Maximas as well. Good luck.

Travis · 02-19-2005, 11:08 AM

Found one...

http://www.justcoral.com/index.php?cPath=31

baja_01 · 02-19-2005, 12:26 PM

Ya, from what I have read on the clams direct forum, the farmers over sold the maxies last year and it is going to take a year or two to replenish them.

Maxx · 02-19-2005, 12:28 PM

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Maximas seem hard to come by these days. Anyone know why?

I spoke with Barry from Clams Direct over the phone recently. He told me that Two of the major Maxima farms went out of business when they lost their grants. The remaining famrs shipped out what they had...but all the captive reared/aquacultured Maxima's are very small, (around an 1 inch). And if he see's a Maxima larger than that, its not aqua-cultured....

Nick

Travis · 02-19-2005, 12:37 PM

I'm sure some of it has to do with the FL hurricanes and ORA as well.

Craig Manoukian · 02-19-2005, 01:05 PM

Good info. all, thanks.

My LFS has had two very nice 4" - 5" Croceas that I picked up. $90 for both, a real steal!

Reefaholic · 02-20-2005, 05:54 PM

I appreciate all the help guys, but I think I might wait it out a few more months until Clams Direct or one of the other reputable suppliers get some bigger ones. Due to what I've heard, being that smaller clams can be more difficult to sustain. I know there is never a guarantee but I would rather pay a little more for a bigger clam that may have a better chance of survival. But thanks again for the help.

mps9506 · 02-20-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxx

I spoke with Barry from Clams Direct over the phone recently. He told me that Two of the major Maxima farms went out of business when they lost their grants. The remaining famrs shipped out what they had...but all the captive reared/aquacultured Maxima's are very small, (around an 1 inch). And if he see's a Maxima larger than that, its not aqua-cultured....

Nick

Same thing I've been informed of.
No one will be selling farm raised maxima's for at least 6 months or so.

FWIW ORA is pretty much back on track from what I've seen AFA fish go. Still building backup on corals. Their clams come in from the Pacific anyways so the hurricanes didn't really affect the clams from what I understand.

Maxx · 02-21-2005, 12:09 AM

FWIW,
When I spoke to Barry on the phone, I mentioned that I liked the Maximas alot and wasnt as wild about Croceas. Barry told me that Croceas are hardier in his experiance than Maxima's which wasnt something I was aware of. BArry says he might lose one Cracea to every 4 Maxima's he loses in shipping...

So maybe you should look into a Crocea?

As far as the smaller ones go...you just need to feed them...thats why their more difficult. Mount them to a piece of rock or better yet and old clam shell when you first get it in your tank. Get a bowl of tankwater and dose phytoplankton...put the clam in the bowl and let it sit for about 20-30 minutes. When the water is clear, you've fed the clam.

Lather, rinse, repeat a day or two later.....

Nick

Gina · 02-21-2005, 06:32 AM

That's good to know Maxx! Can't say I would have ever thought to put them in a bowl to feed!

Reefaholic · 02-21-2005, 04:14 PM

Good idea Maxx, much appreciated! I have heard as well to cut the top off a 3 liter bottle put it over the clam and squirt the phyto in. How effective is this method?

Maxx · 02-21-2005, 04:24 PM

That is effective too..but now you are introducing something with high levels of phosphate (Phytoplankton) to your tank. Phospate is tough on corals and encourages algae growth. This is why people suggest (just about freaking demand in some places) that you soak frozen food in Ro/Di water and strain it through a brine shrimp net to ditch the now phospahte laden water. (Phosphates are used as preservatives in most foods sold these days). So putting the clam in a bowl where it can be fed w/o introducing the phyto to the tank is preferred over the soda bottle top. You can do it either way, one way just seriously lessens the amount of phosphates you're adding to your tank.

Nick

02-18-2005, 07:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Reefaholic Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 View Gallery Karma Komment	I want a clam!? Where are some places to look, I have checked clams direct, they have really nice stuff. They seemed out of stock on maximas, any other good places to look?

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Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,037 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	My LFS has had a tougher time lately getting Maximas as well. Good luck. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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baja_01 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 90 View Gallery Karma Komment	Ya, from what I have read on the clams direct forum, the farmers over sold the maxies last year and it is going to take a year or two to replenish them. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

02-19-2005, 01:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,037 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Good info. all, thanks. My LFS has had two very nice 4" - 5" Croceas that I picked up. $90 for both, a real steal! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

02-21-2005, 12:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	FWIW, When I spoke to Barry on the phone, I mentioned that I liked the Maximas alot and wasnt as wild about Croceas. Barry told me that Croceas are hardier in his experiance than Maxima's which wasnt something I was aware of. BArry says he might lose one Cracea to every 4 Maxima's he loses in shipping... So maybe you should look into a Crocea? As far as the smaller ones go...you just need to feed them...thats why their more difficult. Mount them to a piece of rock or better yet and old clam shell when you first get it in your tank. Get a bowl of tankwater and dose phytoplankton...put the clam in the bowl and let it sit for about 20-30 minutes. When the water is clear, you've fed the clam. Lather, rinse, repeat a day or two later..... Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

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Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,584 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	http://www.reefsanctuary.com/index.php?&page=sponsors Of those, I know Sharky's definitely sells clams and gets rave reviews. Maximas seem hard to come by these days. Anyone know why?

02-18-2005, 10:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Reefaholic Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 View Gallery Karma Komment	I read somewhere that they where really over sold, and that they will have a good selection in about 7-8 months. Maybe I should get a derasa.

02-19-2005, 11:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,584 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Found one... http://www.justcoral.com/index.php?cPath=31

02-19-2005, 12:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,584 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I'm sure some of it has to do with the FL hurricanes and ORA as well.

02-20-2005, 05:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Reefaholic Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 View Gallery Karma Komment	I appreciate all the help guys, but I think I might wait it out a few more months until Clams Direct or one of the other reputable suppliers get some bigger ones. Due to what I've heard, being that smaller clams can be more difficult to sustain. I know there is never a guarantee but I would rather pay a little more for a bigger clam that may have a better chance of survival. But thanks again for the help.

02-21-2005, 06:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gina Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,824 View Gallery Karma Komment	That's good to know Maxx! Can't say I would have ever thought to put them in a bowl to feed! __________________ Gina and Mark's 75 Visit Our Sponsors Gina's Cube Gina

02-21-2005, 04:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Reefaholic Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 View Gallery Karma Komment	Good idea Maxx, much appreciated! I have heard as well to cut the top off a 3 liter bottle put it over the clam and squirt the phyto in. How effective is this method?

02-21-2005, 04:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	That is effective too..but now you are introducing something with high levels of phosphate (Phytoplankton) to your tank. Phospate is tough on corals and encourages algae growth. This is why people suggest (just about freaking demand in some places) that you soak frozen food in Ro/Di water and strain it through a brine shrimp net to ditch the now phospahte laden water. (Phosphates are used as preservatives in most foods sold these days). So putting the clam in a bowl where it can be fed w/o introducing the phyto to the tank is preferred over the soda bottle top. You can do it either way, one way just seriously lessens the amount of phosphates you're adding to your tank. Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

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