What went wrong?

Rye_84 · 03-26-2008, 04:57 PM

So I have wanted a clam forever and purchased one a few months ago. The clam was doing well and then one morning when I got up the clam was gaping and half of it was gone. Does anyone know what might have eaten it? It was placed under 400w halides about 8 inches from the surface of the water on a rock. The only thing that I can think of is my flame angel, but it happened at night. Any suggestions?

Barry N. · 03-26-2008, 05:22 PM

What kind of tank mates do you have in your aquarium?

Rye_84 · 03-26-2008, 05:41 PM

two clownfish, a royal gramma, blue hippo other then that there are some blue and red hermits and snails

framerguy · 03-26-2008, 06:10 PM

Any shrimp?

Rye_84 · 03-26-2008, 06:33 PM

crap..I knew I was forgetting something. Yes, there are two scarlett skunk cleaners and 3 peppermints. Will they eat clams?

sasquatch · 03-26-2008, 07:52 PM

8'' from a 400 w mh? clams take a long time to die from all manner of things, I may be very very wrong but 8'' from a 400 might of been too much?

framerguy · 03-26-2008, 08:35 PM

Peppermints are notorious clam killers. Even skunk cleaners can pick them to death. Once it's dead it's a free for all for the flesh. Having said that, I have one peppermint and four cleaners that leave my clam alone, but there have been many posts here where shrimp have killed clams, and they are in every clam book as possible clam predators. That may be it. But as Squatch said, it may have been to much light and got cooked.

vdituri · 03-26-2008, 09:05 PM

I'm with Steve on this one.
May have been baked under the lights.
How long did you acclimate it to the lights?

Rye_84 · 03-26-2008, 09:19 PM

I shaded it from the lights and slowly let more and more light shine through. I'll just put the clam on hold for now then. I don't want to have another 50+ meal for my shrimp.

vdituri · 03-26-2008, 09:23 PM

What was the time line on the whole process?

I don't know if it would matter on that light. Just seems like alot of watts hitting that clam. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in.

Rye_84 · 03-26-2008, 09:36 PM

about a week or so. I thought clams needed that kind of power to really thrive.

sasquatch · 03-26-2008, 10:23 PM

Im guessing this was a maxima clam as you had it on rock, I think there light requirements are less than crocea's as there found as deep as 45 feet, Ive had mine under vho's for a long time and they do fine, frankly the shrimp seem to sense dying matter, Ive got 5 and they never even look at the clams

03-26-2008, 04:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rye_84 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 87 View Gallery Karma Komment	What went wrong? So I have wanted a clam forever and purchased one a few months ago. The clam was doing well and then one morning when I got up the clam was gaping and half of it was gone. Does anyone know what might have eaten it? It was placed under 400w halides about 8 inches from the surface of the water on a rock. The only thing that I can think of is my flame angel, but it happened at night. Any suggestions?

03-26-2008, 05:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Barry N. Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 86 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What went wrong? What kind of tank mates do you have in your aquarium? __________________ Barry

03-26-2008, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rye_84 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 87 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What went wrong? two clownfish, a royal gramma, blue hippo other then that there are some blue and red hermits and snails

03-26-2008, 06:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? Any shrimp? __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

03-26-2008, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rye_84 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 87 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What went wrong? crap..I knew I was forgetting something. Yes, there are two scarlett skunk cleaners and 3 peppermints. Will they eat clams?

03-26-2008, 07:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,982 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? 8'' from a 400 w mh? clams take a long time to die from all manner of things, I may be very very wrong but 8'' from a 400 might of been too much?

03-26-2008, 08:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? Peppermints are notorious clam killers. Even skunk cleaners can pick them to death. Once it's dead it's a free for all for the flesh. Having said that, I have one peppermint and four cleaners that leave my clam alone, but there have been many posts here where shrimp have killed clams, and they are in every clam book as possible clam predators. That may be it. But as Squatch said, it may have been to much light and got cooked. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

03-26-2008, 09:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? I'm with Steve on this one. May have been baked under the lights. How long did you acclimate it to the lights? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

03-26-2008, 09:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rye_84 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 87 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What went wrong? I shaded it from the lights and slowly let more and more light shine through. I'll just put the clam on hold for now then. I don't want to have another 50+ meal for my shrimp.

03-26-2008, 09:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? What was the time line on the whole process? I don't know if it would matter on that light. Just seems like alot of watts hitting that clam. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

03-26-2008, 09:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rye_84 Midas Blenny Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 87 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What went wrong? about a week or so. I thought clams needed that kind of power to really thrive.

03-26-2008, 10:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,982 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What went wrong? Im guessing this was a maxima clam as you had it on rock, I think there light requirements are less than crocea's as there found as deep as 45 feet, Ive had mine under vho's for a long time and they do fine, frankly the shrimp seem to sense dying matter, Ive got 5 and they never even look at the clams

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