Maxima Clams...

SaltwaterGeek · 01-06-2008, 05:12 PM

Are Maxima's harder to keep than Crocea's? The guy at the LFS said they were, but I always like to get more than one opinion. If they are harder to keep, please explain why.

Thanks,
Chris

zy112 · 01-06-2008, 05:17 PM

Well, they can be kept successfully but i think they are def the most sensitive clams. If your system is mature and everything under control you should be ok but do some research... I would say check out the forums on clamsdirect or even call clamsdirect they are pretty good.

Dentoid · 01-06-2008, 05:22 PM

Accoriding to James Fatheree in his book, "Giant Clams in the Sea and the Aquarium"

Quote:

'...for reasons that aren't clear, both the Crocea and Maxima are considered to be the least hardy of all the Tridacnids, with the Maxima having the worst track record.

lcstorc · 01-06-2008, 07:41 PM

You took the quote right out of my hands.

I have 2 crocea and a maxima. The crocea are doing far better in my reef. I did get the maxima when it was very small though and I think that is part of the reason.
The book Scott quoted from is a great book. If you are interrested in clams I strongly suggest you buy it. Great info and beautiful pics.

Frankie · 01-06-2008, 07:46 PM

I have no troubles with any clams. I think the big issue is maturity of the tank and water quality. I have some of the most hard to keep clams with no issues at all.
I will have to get that book! i have been wanting it. How do you like it Scott?

Techno-Vicki · 01-06-2008, 08:00 PM

Frankie has made some very valid points - maturity of the tank. I have raised many of both and have lost many of both due to inexperience and tank maturity. I do find the maxima a bit harder and have lost a couple for no reason even after experience and tank maturity. That has not happened with corceas. I have three maximas at the moment and all are doing well....for the moment. I have had 2 for about 8 months and the other one for about 4 months. They are a favorite of mine.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-06-2008, 08:16 PM

What parameters constitute a "mature tank"? I too will have get that book!

Chris

zy112 · 01-06-2008, 08:37 PM

Good quest LTD... and very debateable. Some might think other wise but I would say it is when your tank has become completely stable parameters. Also takes time for a sand bed to mature ect... When I first started and was inexperienced it took well over a year through trial and error to reach what i thought was a stable " maturing" tank. one of those ask 10 people might get 10 answers. I'm interested in seeing what other people think though

Frankie · 01-06-2008, 08:51 PM

I agree with you Zach. Stability is the key and age for bacteria colonizations within the rock and sand bed if you have one.

Dentoid · 01-06-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

How do you like it Scott?

I'm with Lynn on this. It is a great book and to my knowledge one of the most authoratative books on the subject. James Fatheree has devoted much of his time to studying the giant clams.

I attended his lecture at MACNA entitled "Genetic Diversity in Giant Clams". I recall him saying that within the same species they vary considerably in their growth rates and hardiness. For example, 2 Maximas in the same tank, one may do very well and the other fail to thrive or two Croceas, one may grow very fast and the other may grow at a slow rate. He said just because you haven't had success with clams doesn't mean that you won't. I swore after I had a Crocea and a Derasa die that I would not have another clam, but his lecture changed my mind and I purchased two Maxima at the MACNA trade show. It's been about 3 months and they are doing well.

He is also conducting an experiment with different lighting schemes and the different Tridacnid species. Don't know when that will be released, but keep an eye out for that.

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zy112 Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: IN Posts: 984 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Maxima Clams... Well, they can be kept successfully but i think they are def the most sensitive clams. If your system is mature and everything under control you should be ok but do some research... I would say check out the forums on clamsdirect or even call clamsdirect they are pretty good. __________________ Zach

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,473 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Maxima Clams... You took the quote right out of my hands. I have 2 crocea and a maxima. The crocea are doing far better in my reef. I did get the maxima when it was very small though and I think that is part of the reason. The book Scott quoted from is a great book. If you are interrested in clams I strongly suggest you buy it. Great info and beautiful pics. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 7,128 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Maxima Clams... I have no troubles with any clams. I think the big issue is maturity of the tank and water quality. I have some of the most hard to keep clams with no issues at all. I will have to get that book! i have been wanting it. How do you like it Scott? __________________ Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

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Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Maxima Clams... Frankie has made some very valid points - maturity of the tank. I have raised many of both and have lost many of both due to inexperience and tank maturity. I do find the maxima a bit harder and have lost a couple for no reason even after experience and tank maturity. That has not happened with corceas. I have three maximas at the moment and all are doing well....for the moment. I have had 2 for about 8 months and the other one for about 4 months. They are a favorite of mine. __________________ AKA - "Speedy" Extreme Reef Addition Videos of Mandarins, reef tank, and "His Majesty's" DIY water changer http://www.murrayproductions.org/Ree...RM_videos.html "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal." - Henry Ford (1863-1947)

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01-06-2008, 08:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
zy112 Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: IN Posts: 984 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Maxima Clams... Good quest LTD... and very debateable. Some might think other wise but I would say it is when your tank has become completely stable parameters. Also takes time for a sand bed to mature ect... When I first started and was inexperienced it took well over a year through trial and error to reach what i thought was a stable " maturing" tank. one of those ask 10 people might get 10 answers. I'm interested in seeing what other people think though __________________ Zach

01-06-2008, 08:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 7,128 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Maxima Clams... I agree with you Zach. Stability is the key and age for bacteria colonizations within the rock and sand bed if you have one. __________________ Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

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