Clam lighting

Kazzy · 09-27-2007, 03:13 PM

Would the 36" light in this link be enough for a clam(assuming the tank is mature enough)?
Ocean Encounter: Sunlight Supply 36" Tek-Light 4 - 39W T5 Fixture - Black

Dentoid · 09-27-2007, 03:16 PM

I just attended a lecture by James Fatheree about clams at MACNA. He said that MH was the only lighting adequate enough for clams, unless you plan on having deeper water species like Derassa.

Kazzy · 09-27-2007, 04:33 PM

I was planning on trying to get one of the Derassas mostly because I wanted one of the black and white ones(when my dad finally can save up for the lighting, we're a little tight on money right now), but it's even better if it can live under that lighting. I am still a little confused though. I have seen 3-4 clams kept under T-5s for extended periods of time before. Is this probably because they were Derassas?

Kazzy · 09-27-2007, 06:39 PM

I was just reading about clams in Reef Invertebrates, by Anthony Calfo and Robert Fenner, and it said deresas are one of 3 species of clams that can adapt to a wide range of light spectrum and intensity. The other two were T. squamosa and T. hippopus.

lcstorc · 09-27-2007, 06:57 PM

Maxima and Crocea are the ones that need the most light since they are found in the shallowest waters.
I don't think I would try any clam without MH though. They get virtuallly all of their food from their zoanthella which get their food from the light.
A great book to read is "Giant Clams in the Sea and the Aquarium" by James Fatheree. It is a great read with lots of info about clams as well as tons of pictures.

GeeWizzItsMe · 09-27-2007, 07:07 PM

You mean H. Hippopus right, not T. Hippopus

Kazzy · 09-28-2007, 11:34 AM

Yeah probably. Lynn, thank for the book.

AQTCJAK · 09-28-2007, 11:46 AM

Clams can be kept under T5 HO's if you have suffucent lighting ie 6-8 Blubs

vdituri · 09-28-2007, 12:34 PM

I'm sitting under regular flourescents right now?
Happy as a clam.

Actually, not really, I'm at work, so as happy as a clam can be at work on a Friday when the weather is beautiful outside.

BigAl07 · 09-28-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

I'm sitting under regular flourescents right now?
Happy as a clam.

Actually, not really, I'm at work, so as happy as a clam can be at work on a Friday when the weather is beautiful outside.

From the "look" of your AVATAR you are VERY happy!

Yeah it's an AMAZING day outside... I need to be GOLFING!!

I'm "hoping" to have a clam under my new T-5's (8 bulb system ) in the near future.

Allen

prow · 09-28-2007, 01:05 PM

i would have to say that those books just might be out dated. James Fatheree is simply wrong that MH is the only lighting adequate enough for clams, thats so not ture. check my tank thread. i have only T5's and two crocea clams along with some demanding acors and such. have had them under T5's for 1.5 years. they grew from 3" to the 6" they are now. super colored. the lower one is about 15" under the water line. an expert on clams i think not.

Kazzy · 09-28-2007, 01:44 PM

Thanks for all your help. If we get the fixture I may look at getting a clam.

lcstorc · 09-28-2007, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prow

i would have to say that those books just might be out dated. James Fatheree is simply wrong that MH is the only lighting adequate enough for clams, thats so not ture. check my tank thread. i have only T5's and two crocea clams along with some demanding acors and such. have had them under T5's for 1.5 years. they grew from 3" to the 6" they are now. super colored. the lower one is about 15" under the water line. an expert on clams i think not.

Well he is considered enough of an expert in the field that he spoke at MACNA on the topic.
I can also say that the clams I had and thought looked good have improved dramatically after taking his advice.
I'm not saying it can't be done. I am certainly no expert.

Saltwater Noob · 09-28-2007, 03:37 PM

Humm now I am confused

I was going to get a clam for my tank I have a T5 nova extreme but now not sure they have a bunch of clams at LFS under my same light doing great but this thread says other wise will it work if I put the clam on top of some rocks close to the top of the tank?

BigAl07 · 09-28-2007, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saltwater Noob

Humm now I am confused

I was going to get a clam for my tank I have a T5 nova extreme but now not sure they have a bunch of clams at LFS under my same light doing great but this thread says other wise will it work if I put the clam on top of some rocks close to the top of the tank?

always keep in mind that your LFS is in the business to get stuff (clams, fish, corals everything ) in, display them attractively and then SELL them to you. Even under the "Wrong" lights they can live for a good while so even though they are currently under less than IDEAL lights (and probably look good still) that doesn't mean that they are gonna thrive long term under them. On the same token Jack is very experienced in this and if it's worked for him it "should" work for you (and Me).

Allen

09-27-2007, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kazzy Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KS Posts: 440 View Gallery Karma Komment	Clam lighting Would the 36" light in this link be enough for a clam(assuming the tank is mature enough)? Ocean Encounter: Sunlight Supply 36" Tek-Light 4 - 39W T5 Fixture - Black __________________ Grant New favorite quote: I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN. I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST. I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H. I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE. I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE. I do_not_like GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! Mandarin Policeman http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

09-27-2007, 04:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kazzy Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KS Posts: 440 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting I was planning on trying to get one of the Derassas mostly because I wanted one of the black and white ones(when my dad finally can save up for the lighting, we're a little tight on money right now), but it's even better if it can live under that lighting. I am still a little confused though. I have seen 3-4 clams kept under T-5s for extended periods of time before. Is this probably because they were Derassas? __________________ Grant New favorite quote: I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN. I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST. I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H. I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE. I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE. I do_not_like GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! Mandarin Policeman http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

09-27-2007, 06:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kazzy Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KS Posts: 440 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting I was just reading about clams in Reef Invertebrates, by Anthony Calfo and Robert Fenner, and it said deresas are one of 3 species of clams that can adapt to a wide range of light spectrum and intensity. The other two were T. squamosa and T. hippopus. __________________ Grant New favorite quote: I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN. I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST. I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H. I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE. I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE. I do_not_like GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! Mandarin Policeman http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

09-27-2007, 06:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Clam lighting Maxima and Crocea are the ones that need the most light since they are found in the shallowest waters. I don't think I would try any clam without MH though. They get virtuallly all of their food from their zoanthella which get their food from the light. A great book to read is "Giant Clams in the Sea and the Aquarium" by James Fatheree. It is a great read with lots of info about clams as well as tons of pictures. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

09-27-2007, 07:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
GeeWizzItsMe See Golden Compass Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,857 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting You mean H. Hippopus right, not T. Hippopus __________________ VP of Dork Club http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-new-tank.html

09-28-2007, 11:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kazzy Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KS Posts: 440 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting Yeah probably. Lynn, thank for the book. __________________ Grant New favorite quote: I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN. I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST. I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H. I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE. I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE. I do_not_like GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! Mandarin Policeman http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

09-28-2007, 11:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Clam lighting Clams can be kept under T5 HO's if you have suffucent lighting ie 6-8 Blubs __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

09-28-2007, 12:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Clam lighting I'm sitting under regular flourescents right now? Happy as a clam. Actually, not really, I'm at work, so as happy as a clam can be at work on a Friday when the weather is beautiful outside. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

09-28-2007, 01:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,728 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Clam lighting i would have to say that those books just might be out dated. James Fatheree is simply wrong that MH is the only lighting adequate enough for clams, thats so not ture. check my tank thread. i have only T5's and two crocea clams along with some demanding acors and such. have had them under T5's for 1.5 years. they grew from 3" to the 6" they are now. super colored. the lower one is about 15" under the water line. an expert on clams i think not. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

09-28-2007, 01:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kazzy Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KS Posts: 440 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting Thanks for all your help. If we get the fixture I may look at getting a clam. __________________ Grant New favorite quote: I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN. I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST. I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H. I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE. I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE. I do_not_like GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! Mandarin Policeman http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

09-28-2007, 03:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
Saltwater Noob I'm Learning Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Port Richey, Fl Posts: 367 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Clam lighting Humm now I am confused I was going to get a clam for my tank I have a T5 nova extreme but now not sure they have a bunch of clams at LFS under my same light doing great but this thread says other wise will it work if I put the clam on top of some rocks close to the top of the tank? __________________ 65 gal Reef Tank 8 gal sump aquaC remora Skimmer w MJ 1200 pump Hydro #3 for flow MJ1200 for flow Current Extreme Pro 6 Bulb T5 Setup Live Stock Yellow Tang - Six Line - Clown - and about 50 red leg hermits - 25 snails - 2 star fish and 2 cucumbers. Corals zoo's and GSP and shrooms surge return pump

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