clam rolled over?

reefracer · 07-16-2007, 10:53 PM

just posted pics of my clam, it was setting upright 90 degrees from the current position do you think it moved or can it move like that, also what about the strands on the bottom do they look normal? simce it is on sand only there is not a hard surface to attach to. what do you think?

sasquatch · 07-16-2007, 11:10 PM

When a clam expels water it can be very powerfull, you should have a flatish piece of lr or another half shell for the clam to attach to, this guy needs a firm substrate, sometimes the lfs will stick them in the sand so they are easily removed for sale, the bissel foot your seeing is normal thats what it will bind to the surface with. Steve

caitrina · 07-17-2007, 12:59 AM

Steve, I am surprised you didn't ask Victor if he was ok....lol...

Anyway, yes the clam should have something under him as Steve said. Sometimes the LFS's fail to tell us this. I hope your clam is ok, he should be fine.

reefracer · 07-17-2007, 06:08 AM

Thanks, I think I'll use a half shell or small flatish rock. I don't really want to let it attach to a large piece of live rock because then I may want to move it and won't be able to! Are they happy low or high in the tank (mine is a 24" d 90 gal but on 19" water, DSB) I think I see them mostly put on the bottom of tanks.

lcstorc · 07-17-2007, 06:17 AM

What kind of clam is it and what is your lighting? That will make the difference on where you put it.
The type of clam will also determine if it should go in the sand or on a rock. Crocea for example is a rock dwelling clam and will be much happier on a rock higher in the tank. It doesn't have to be one of your big rocks. You can let it attach to a shell or piece of flat rock and then move the small rock up onto your rockwork.
The way it is laying it looks to me like it could have been knocked over. Sometimes fish or even snails can knock them over if they have not attached. Also they can move on their own. I have a small maxima that got knocked over by somebody (probably a turbo snail) and so far I have not found it's sweet spot yet. Pretty much every morning when I look at the tank it has moved.

reefracer · 07-17-2007, 11:36 AM

Unfortunatly I don't know the type of clam, I know shouldn't buy if you don't know what you're buying but my LFS had a going out of bus. sale so I took the clam home. I was hoping you can tell by the pics. It seems to be doing ok, I'm in process of setting up a cal. reac. which should help it and SPS w/calc needs.

lcstorc · 07-17-2007, 12:04 PM

I certainly can't tell from the pics and according to the book I am reading it can be very difficult to truly tell the difference in many cases. Knowing the type of clam can make a big difference in care but regardless of the clam they are light loving animals. What kind of lighting do you have? Light is much more important to a clam than anything else including Calc since the zoanthella in the clam's mantle feed off of the light and then turn around and feed the clam. Clams do some filter feeding but their primary food source is the relationship with the zoanthella.
I can look at the id info in my book when I get home but I would need to see pics of the mantle and the top of the clam as well before I could even make a guess. Perhaps somebody with more experience can tell.

vdituri · 07-17-2007, 09:41 PM

I'm alright, just dizzy.

sasquatch · 07-17-2007, 09:46 PM

OH NO!! Victor has fallen, and he cant get up!!!!!
Reefracer, keep bumpimg the thread until SueT or Chris and Barb come by, a clear shot of the side of the clam would be a big help for Id. Steve

lcstorc · 07-17-2007, 10:01 PM

See those are the peeps we need on this one. A pic of the mantle can help too if you can get a clear one. The color doesn't make a difference in what type but there are eye patterns and other id clues there. I'd have to get the book out to remember what all to look for and we have several really good clam people here.
Victor, I hope you didn't hurt yourself. Just spit out the sand. You should be fine.

reefracer · 07-17-2007, 10:52 PM

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IMG_0345a.JPG I wish I could take better pictures

BTW,I have PFO Solars 36"

aquaman3680 · 07-31-2007, 08:31 PM

appears to be a crocea clam.

Matt

Reefcraze_1 · 08-01-2008, 08:14 PM

I agree definitely a crocea.

mps9506 · 08-01-2008, 10:10 PM

It's a crocea. Like mentioned above make sure to put it on a shell or rock. you can leave it on the sand bed after that or move it into your rock work.

07-16-2007, 10:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
reefracer Ricordea $reefracer's Avatar$ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 183 View Gallery Karma Komment	clam rolled over? just posted pics of my clam, it was setting upright 90 degrees from the current position do you think it moved or can it move like that, also what about the strands on the bottom do they look normal? simce it is on sand only there is not a hard surface to attach to. what do you think?
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caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,700 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? Steve, I am surprised you didn't ask Victor if he was ok....lol... Anyway, yes the clam should have something under him as Steve said. Sometimes the LFS's fail to tell us this. I hope your clam is ok, he should be fine. __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

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reefracer Ricordea $reefracer's Avatar$ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 183 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: clam rolled over? Thanks, I think I'll use a half shell or small flatish rock. I don't really want to let it attach to a large piece of live rock because then I may want to move it and won't be able to! Are they happy low or high in the tank (mine is a 24" d 90 gal but on 19" water, DSB) I think I see them mostly put on the bottom of tanks.
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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? What kind of clam is it and what is your lighting? That will make the difference on where you put it. The type of clam will also determine if it should go in the sand or on a rock. Crocea for example is a rock dwelling clam and will be much happier on a rock higher in the tank. It doesn't have to be one of your big rocks. You can let it attach to a shell or piece of flat rock and then move the small rock up onto your rockwork. The way it is laying it looks to me like it could have been knocked over. Sometimes fish or even snails can knock them over if they have not attached. Also they can move on their own. I have a small maxima that got knocked over by somebody (probably a turbo snail) and so far I have not found it's sweet spot yet. Pretty much every morning when I look at the tank it has moved. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

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reefracer Ricordea $reefracer's Avatar$ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 183 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: clam rolled over? Unfortunatly I don't know the type of clam, I know shouldn't buy if you don't know what you're buying but my LFS had a going out of bus. sale so I took the clam home. I was hoping you can tell by the pics. It seems to be doing ok, I'm in process of setting up a cal. reac. which should help it and SPS w/calc needs.
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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? I certainly can't tell from the pics and according to the book I am reading it can be very difficult to truly tell the difference in many cases. Knowing the type of clam can make a big difference in care but regardless of the clam they are light loving animals. What kind of lighting do you have? Light is much more important to a clam than anything else including Calc since the zoanthella in the clam's mantle feed off of the light and then turn around and feed the clam. Clams do some filter feeding but their primary food source is the relationship with the zoanthella. I can look at the id info in my book when I get home but I would need to see pics of the mantle and the top of the clam as well before I could even make a guess. Perhaps somebody with more experience can tell. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

07-17-2007, 09:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? I'm alright, just dizzy. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? OH NO!! Victor has fallen, and he cant get up!!!!! Reefracer, keep bumpimg the thread until SueT or Chris and Barb come by, a clear shot of the side of the clam would be a big help for Id. Steve

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: clam rolled over? See those are the peeps we need on this one. A pic of the mantle can help too if you can get a clear one. The color doesn't make a difference in what type but there are eye patterns and other id clues there. I'd have to get the book out to remember what all to look for and we have several really good clam people here. Victor, I hope you didn't hurt yourself. Just spit out the sand. You should be fine. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

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reefracer Ricordea $reefracer's Avatar$ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 183 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: clam rolled over? IMG_0343a.JPG IMG_0344a.JPG IMG_0345a.JPG I wish I could take better pictures BTW,I have PFO Solars 36"
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