My clam garden..... - Page 2

Brucey · 01-19-2004, 09:23 AM

Sorry, I didn't clarify one comment very well. I've also read that if the mantle is over extended, then it's because their not getting enough light. Which is why i wondered if the opposite is true with my fella .... ie, he's in such intense lighting that he doesn't need to open fully. I acclimatised him to his current lighting level by gradually moving him up the tank. PS, Lou has named him Clive !!!!

mwrager · 01-19-2004, 10:54 AM

very nice pic.

Maxx · 01-19-2004, 12:56 PM

Brucey,
I'm running a single 175 watt AB 10k bulb over the tank, and there is no actinic supplementation. I placed the clams on the bottom for a couple of reasons. I was trying to acclimate the clams to my tanks lighting, so I wanted them in the lowest part of the tank until then. I'm also running to the arts and crafts store today in order to purchase large seashells to put under 'em so they can attach their byssal glands to that. It keeps them happy nad lets me move them wherever I want. I didnt put 'em on the rockwork because I plan on tearing this tank down once my bigger 58 gets stable in 6 months or so. And its easier to re-arrange rockwork when nothing important is growing on one side.
I've seen clams searching for light like you described. I believe the term used is "panning". It looks like there is too much clam and not enough shell. I would think that your clam is getting so much light that it doesnt want to/need to open up all the way. You might try to move it down a bit.
Do you have any pics of Clive?
Nick

mikej11 · 01-19-2004, 01:50 PM

My clam is a Dresa. Check out my thread.
New Frags from Coral Dynamics

Michael J

Maxx · 01-19-2004, 03:12 PM

Nice looking Derasa Clam Mike!
Nick

cheeks69 · 01-19-2004, 03:24 PM

Great looking specimens especially the Derasa ... congrats Nick

someday when I grow up and get some real lighting I'll try them

Maxx · 01-19-2004, 04:18 PM

Rob,
The Derasa clams are the least light requiring and are classified as "easiest" among clams. If you've got enough light to keep your new BTA, you've got enough light for a clam...
Might have to place it high in the tank though...JMO
Nick

Brucey · 01-19-2004, 05:04 PM

Nicky boy ..... no pics as yet mate. I don't know why but I just cn't get a clear focus on the guy ..... but he is at the back of the tank so I'm facing through 18" of water. I'll try again later .... even on manula focus it still looks blurred. Brucey

CaseyDude · 01-19-2004, 05:41 PM

Nice ones

Brucey · 01-19-2004, 06:09 PM

maxx ..... took your advice my friend. Clive now as a new home. He's been closed all evening and immediatly opened up slightly (see photo) to look at his new surroundings after I moved him. It also looks like his mantle has been nipped at (Yes I have angels and I suspect my Bi-colour, although I have to say I have never seen it). You can see where his mantle has been nipped at, or could something else be doing this. Anyway I hit on a cunning plan and placed him in slightly lower light near Clarky the clown's lair. NO-ONE IS ALLOWED NEAR !!!!!. Clarky isn't at all interested in him so hopefully if he is getting bothered, he can get some restbite.
Brucey

Maxx · 01-19-2004, 06:27 PM

Brucey, thats a good looking lil Maxima! I'm impressed. Hope he opens up more where he's at so you can see more of him.
Nick

lance03 · 05-17-2004, 03:49 PM

Brucey,

At 1.5 inches, you will need to feed him. They need to be fed phydo and rotifiers (if available) until they are at least 2". I personally feed until they are about 3". Then they are on their own.

It is a tough fact of life, but small clams do not have enough zooanthelle in their mantle to survive over the long term - no matter what amount of light you give them. They will eventually use their energy stores and perish. I feed mine every day to every other day. I place my small ones in the bottom of a cut off water bottle. Turn off the pumps, and "fill" the container with phydo from a syringe, until the water has a green tint. In about 30 minutes, the water is clear and I turn the pumps back on. I don't like the process of removing the clam, placing them in a bowl, feeding, and then placing back in the tank.. Seems too stressful for the clam to go through this everyday.

Curtswearing · 05-17-2004, 03:55 PM

Lance,

Welcome to Reef Sanctuary!!!

Maxx · 05-17-2004, 10:45 PM

Good info and a great way to feed the smaller clams w/o stressing too much, Lance. Could you post a pic of your cut off water bottle so I can get a better idea of how you do it?
Nick

lance03 · 05-18-2004, 10:35 AM

Sure - Not a problem.. I will post a couple.. The single clam, is a Maxima that I have had for a while. It went through the "water bottle" process, until he outgrew it. It is now about 3". The second pic (or however they come out) is of a 5" Crocea and the 1.25" clam in the water bottle. When I feed the 1.25" - I use about 2 to 3 ml of PhycoPure. It is a variant of DT's that is grown and sold here locally.

01-19-2004, 09:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sorry, I didn't clarify one comment very well. I've also read that if the mantle is over extended, then it's because their not getting enough light. Which is why i wondered if the opposite is true with my fella .... ie, he's in such intense lighting that he doesn't need to open fully. I acclimatised him to his current lighting level by gradually moving him up the tank. PS, Lou has named him Clive !!!! __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

01-19-2004, 10:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
mwrager Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 1,068 View Gallery Karma Komment	very nice pic. __________________ Mark Some days I realy feel old! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner3.gif

01-19-2004, 12:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Brucey, I'm running a single 175 watt AB 10k bulb over the tank, and there is no actinic supplementation. I placed the clams on the bottom for a couple of reasons. I was trying to acclimate the clams to my tanks lighting, so I wanted them in the lowest part of the tank until then. I'm also running to the arts and crafts store today in order to purchase large seashells to put under 'em so they can attach their byssal glands to that. It keeps them happy nad lets me move them wherever I want. I didnt put 'em on the rockwork because I plan on tearing this tank down once my bigger 58 gets stable in 6 months or so. And its easier to re-arrange rockwork when nothing important is growing on one side. I've seen clams searching for light like you described. I believe the term used is "panning". It looks like there is too much clam and not enough shell. I would think that your clam is getting so much light that it doesnt want to/need to open up all the way. You might try to move it down a bit. Do you have any pics of Clive? Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

01-19-2004, 01:50 PM	#19 (permalink)
mikej11 Fire Coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kauai, HI Posts: 82 View Gallery Karma Komment	My clam is a Dresa. Check out my thread. New Frags from Coral Dynamics Michael J __________________ PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor in Kauai, Hawaii

01-19-2004, 03:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Nice looking Derasa Clam Mike! Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

01-19-2004, 03:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,031 View Gallery Karma Komment	Great looking specimens especially the Derasa ... congrats Nick someday when I grow up and get some real lighting I'll try them __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

01-19-2004, 04:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Rob, The Derasa clams are the least light requiring and are classified as "easiest" among clams. If you've got enough light to keep your new BTA, you've got enough light for a clam... Might have to place it high in the tank though...JMO Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

01-19-2004, 05:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Nicky boy ..... no pics as yet mate. I don't know why but I just cn't get a clear focus on the guy ..... but he is at the back of the tank so I'm facing through 18" of water. I'll try again later .... even on manula focus it still looks blurred. Brucey __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

01-19-2004, 05:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
CaseyDude Serpent Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 201 View Gallery Karma Komment	Nice ones __________________ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner2.gif

01-19-2004, 06:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	maxx ..... took your advice my friend. Clive now as a new home. He's been closed all evening and immediatly opened up slightly (see photo) to look at his new surroundings after I moved him. It also looks like his mantle has been nipped at (Yes I have angels and I suspect my Bi-colour, although I have to say I have never seen it). You can see where his mantle has been nipped at, or could something else be doing this. Anyway I hit on a cunning plan and placed him in slightly lower light near Clarky the clown's lair. NO-ONE IS ALLOWED NEAR !!!!!. Clarky isn't at all interested in him so hopefully if he is getting bothered, he can get some restbite. Brucey __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

01-19-2004, 06:27 PM	#26 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Brucey, thats a good looking lil Maxima! I'm impressed. Hope he opens up more where he's at so you can see more of him. Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

05-17-2004, 03:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
lance03 Tunicate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 4 View Gallery Karma Komment	Brucey, At 1.5 inches, you will need to feed him. They need to be fed phydo and rotifiers (if available) until they are at least 2". I personally feed until they are about 3". Then they are on their own. It is a tough fact of life, but small clams do not have enough zooanthelle in their mantle to survive over the long term - no matter what amount of light you give them. They will eventually use their energy stores and perish. I feed mine every day to every other day. I place my small ones in the bottom of a cut off water bottle. Turn off the pumps, and "fill" the container with phydo from a syringe, until the water has a green tint. In about 30 minutes, the water is clear and I turn the pumps back on. I don't like the process of removing the clam, placing them in a bowl, feeding, and then placing back in the tank.. Seems too stressful for the clam to go through this everyday.

05-17-2004, 03:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
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05-17-2004, 10:45 PM	#29 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Good info and a great way to feed the smaller clams w/o stressing too much, Lance. Could you post a pic of your cut off water bottle so I can get a better idea of how you do it? Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

05-18-2004, 10:35 AM	#30 (permalink)
lance03 Tunicate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 4 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sure - Not a problem.. I will post a couple.. The single clam, is a Maxima that I have had for a while. It went through the "water bottle" process, until he outgrew it. It is now about 3". The second pic (or however they come out) is of a 5" Crocea and the 1.25" clam in the water bottle. When I feed the 1.25" - I use about 2 to 3 ml of PhycoPure. It is a variant of DT's that is grown and sold here locally.

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