predator tank

molsen187 · 07-08-2009, 10:52 PM

i am going to be setting up a predator tank in a few weeks to a month. i used to have a 55g reef tank that i had to leave when i moved a couple of weeks ago. i have never done a predator tank. i'm looking for any suggestions that would help me. i'm getting a 90g tank. is a sump and fuge neccassary on this king of tank. also is a protein skimmer needed. i have an aqua c remora. live stock suggestions would also be greatly appreciated. i was leaning towards a lionfish or two depending on what type i get and a puffer, maybe an eel. should i have live sand on the bottome of this tank. i was thinking of putting some live rock in there not much maybe 30 lbs at the most to give the lion fish somewhere to chill during the day. how much light would i need to do this tank. any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated. thanks in advance.

Zack33 · 07-09-2009, 01:49 AM

a sump and fuge would be best
a protein skimmer would be best
i would go with the normal amount of live rock for a reef (1-2 pounds per gallon) of course not all of that has to be in the DT most can be in the sump/fuge
lighting all you need is enough to have colour in the fish your happy with

if you like the look go bare bottom (unless you get the eel then go with a SSB)

Now to explain my answers for the most part

Predator fish are very messy eaters, therefore they make the quality of water bad very fast, this is here a VERY good protein skimmer is needed, lots of live rock, and a good sump/ LARGE fuge for filtration
if you like barebottom go that way because then there is not a many places for nitrates to build up from the TONS of waste your predator fish will be creating.

I personnally would be looking for a protein skimmer that is rated for at least 150 gallons, and not one rated for 55 at the best (IMO) once again predator fish make ALOT OF WASTE! therefore ALOT OF QUALITY FILTRATION WILL BE NEEDED!

HTH,
Zack

molsen187 · 07-09-2009, 03:04 AM

the aqua c i have is the 300. i'm not sure what size is actually fitted for as i bought it used on the forum here. it was a beast on my 55. i think the guy i bought it from used it on at least a 90 i bought it with the intention of getting a new tank eventually anyway. so how deep of a sand bed if i decide to get the eel. i was thinking hawkfish eel and then one other fish maybe a puffer. so i would want what like 60-80 lbs of rock in the sump section then the rest in the tank. i just want enough rock in the tank for the eel to live in and the hawkfish to perch on.

molsen187 · 07-09-2009, 03:11 AM

what i'm really trying for here is the easiest move in a couple of years. where i'm living now isn't gonna be permament so i want something that is easy to move when neccassary. thats why i did't want to go reef tank cause moving all the corals and rock is a pia. if i have to have the same amount of rock in a predator tank i might just have to wait until i can get my own place.

molsen187 · 07-09-2009, 02:53 PM

i'm just going to be doing a fish only tank. i'm gonna get a puffer and something else not sure what yet. my friend suggested something called a tusk or task or something like that can't remember the name off the top of my head i'll ask him when i see him at work. anny suggestions for some cool predatory fish for a fish only tank that isn't a trigger would be appreciated. i prolly not gonna get a lionfish either since them and the puffers don't get along.

lcstorc · 07-09-2009, 03:56 PM

I'm not that familiar with the predators but I do know that puffers get very large so you want to be careful there.
Personally, I wouldn't set up a tank if I knew I was moving.
Even if you don't have corals, it is a royal pain but that is just my opinion.

bandr1002 · 10-22-2009, 01:45 AM

tusk is the fish you speak of. it is a non reef safe wrasse. harliquin tusk. gets 10 inches or so and is a very stunning fish to watch.

SubRosa · 10-25-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandr1002

tusk is the fish you speak of. it is a non reef safe wrasse. harliquin tusk. gets 10 inches or so and is a very stunning fish to watch.

There are those here who would dispute that a Harlequin Tusk isn't reef safe. If Witfull is still round he can give you a first hand account. It will eat your shrimp, but as far as corals they're fine.

07-08-2009, 10:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
molsen187 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: haverhill, ma Posts: 394 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	predator tank i am going to be setting up a predator tank in a few weeks to a month. i used to have a 55g reef tank that i had to leave when i moved a couple of weeks ago. i have never done a predator tank. i'm looking for any suggestions that would help me. i'm getting a 90g tank. is a sump and fuge neccassary on this king of tank. also is a protein skimmer needed. i have an aqua c remora. live stock suggestions would also be greatly appreciated. i was leaning towards a lionfish or two depending on what type i get and a puffer, maybe an eel. should i have live sand on the bottome of this tank. i was thinking of putting some live rock in there not much maybe 30 lbs at the most to give the lion fish somewhere to chill during the day. how much light would i need to do this tank. any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated. thanks in advance.

07-09-2009, 01:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Zack33 Fire Coral Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 66 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: predator tank a sump and fuge would be best a protein skimmer would be best i would go with the normal amount of live rock for a reef (1-2 pounds per gallon) of course not all of that has to be in the DT most can be in the sump/fuge lighting all you need is enough to have colour in the fish your happy with if you like the look go bare bottom (unless you get the eel then go with a SSB) Now to explain my answers for the most part Predator fish are very messy eaters, therefore they make the quality of water bad very fast, this is here a VERY good protein skimmer is needed, lots of live rock, and a good sump/ LARGE fuge for filtration if you like barebottom go that way because then there is not a many places for nitrates to build up from the TONS of waste your predator fish will be creating. I personnally would be looking for a protein skimmer that is rated for at least 150 gallons, and not one rated for 55 at the best (IMO) once again predator fish make ALOT OF WASTE! therefore ALOT OF QUALITY FILTRATION WILL BE NEEDED! HTH, Zack

07-09-2009, 03:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
molsen187 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: haverhill, ma Posts: 394 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: predator tank the aqua c i have is the 300. i'm not sure what size is actually fitted for as i bought it used on the forum here. it was a beast on my 55. i think the guy i bought it from used it on at least a 90 i bought it with the intention of getting a new tank eventually anyway. so how deep of a sand bed if i decide to get the eel. i was thinking hawkfish eel and then one other fish maybe a puffer. so i would want what like 60-80 lbs of rock in the sump section then the rest in the tank. i just want enough rock in the tank for the eel to live in and the hawkfish to perch on.

07-09-2009, 03:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
molsen187 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: haverhill, ma Posts: 394 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: predator tank what i'm really trying for here is the easiest move in a couple of years. where i'm living now isn't gonna be permament so i want something that is easy to move when neccassary. thats why i did't want to go reef tank cause moving all the corals and rock is a pia. if i have to have the same amount of rock in a predator tank i might just have to wait until i can get my own place.

07-09-2009, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
molsen187 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: haverhill, ma Posts: 394 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: predator tank i'm just going to be doing a fish only tank. i'm gonna get a puffer and something else not sure what yet. my friend suggested something called a tusk or task or something like that can't remember the name off the top of my head i'll ask him when i see him at work. anny suggestions for some cool predatory fish for a fish only tank that isn't a trigger would be appreciated. i prolly not gonna get a lionfish either since them and the puffers don't get along.

07-09-2009, 03:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: predator tank I'm not that familiar with the predators but I do know that puffers get very large so you want to be careful there. Personally, I wouldn't set up a tank if I knew I was moving. Even if you don't have corals, it is a royal pain but that is just my opinion. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

10-22-2009, 01:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
bandr1002 Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 276 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: predator tank tusk is the fish you speak of. it is a non reef safe wrasse. harliquin tusk. gets 10 inches or so and is a very stunning fish to watch. __________________ Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures........ Remember, when someone annoys you, It takes 42 muscles in your face to frown BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack the living crap out of em.

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