my fowlr

mnreefman · 12-01-2003, 03:00 AM

just set up 2 months ago, pics forth coming once the fish get here.. lil bit of info on it
500 gal
120 gal sump/wetdry
mag 24 for return
850w vho
150 lbs cc but going to switch it with a layer of southdown
700lbs lr

fish on order
5 fu manch lions (sight to see when they school up)
2 leaf fish

and i will be ordering
2 rouge scorpions
1 or 2 bamboo sharks
1 mintas (sp) grouper

if anyone has any sugestions as to what else i could/should add... please let me know

Maxx · 12-01-2003, 04:30 AM

Couple of things....
I would personnaly stick w/ the CC since this will be a tank w/ heavy waste producers. CC is much easier to vaccum than sand is...
Also since the fu manchu's stay pretty small for a lionfish, you might want to re-think the Miniatus grouper. Its a sharp looking fish, but will get to the full size of about 18 inches pretty quick in a 500 gallon. I would hate to see you lose both the miniatus and a Fu Manchu because the Min tried to eat one and died....
Also, keep in mind that w/ the sharks, you wont be able to dose copper in the event you have an Ich outbreak. Granted on a FOWLR you probably werent going to anyway...just making sure.
Howsabout an eel? Dragon morays if you can find 'em, and then if you can afford 'em are nice. They look ferocious, but are a smaller eel. Zebra's are good for sizable eels that arent fish eaters....
Bigger angels would be sharp in a tank like that, so would some of the bigger tangs....
Just some thoughts...
Nick

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Maxx
Couple of things....
since the fu manchu's stay pretty small for a lionfish, you might want to re-think the Miniatus grouper. Its a sharp looking fish, but will get to the full size of about 18 inches pretty quick in a 500 gallon. I would hate to see you lose both the miniatus and a Fu Manchu because the Min tried to eat one and died....
Nick

Great point Maxx! I would pick one or the other.

You may want to think of some of the bigger genus Thalasoma Wrasses which can be way awesome in coloration and can get 12" or better.

Specific tangs to think about are the Orange Shoulder and Sohal.

The Angel's, a big French or Queen, would be nice as well in terms of specifics.

Maxx · 12-01-2003, 05:11 AM

Annularis/ Blue ring angels are gorgeous too!
harlequin tusk wrasse maybe?

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 05:33 AM

From www.liveaquaria.com:

Pink Face Wrasse Thalassoma quinquevittatum

Banana Wrasse Thalassoma lutescens

Paddlefin Wrasse Thalassoma lucasanum

Klunzinger's Wrasse Thalassoma klunzingeri

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 05:35 AM

Harlequin Tusk Wrasse Choerodon fasciata

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 05:40 AM

Tangs:

Naso Tang Naso lituratus

Vlamingii Tang Naso vlamingii

Orange Shoulder Tang Acanthurus olivaceous

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 05:46 AM

Angels:

Imperator Angel Pomacanthus imperator

Annularis AngelPomacanthus imperator

French AngelPomacanthus paru

wooddood · 12-01-2003, 06:24 AM

good job nick & craig good info.thanks.

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 06:28 AM

You betcha!

mnreefman · 12-01-2003, 12:24 PM

thx you guys for pointing that out with the grouper, i forgot to add moray on my list.. i will be getting at least one......... as far as the angel go i kinda want this to be a more of an evil/venaomous tank, i was putting the grouper in for the activity level.. not many (active, smimming fish on my list)..... im not to keen on angels..(sry)

Craig Manoukian · 12-01-2003, 12:38 PM

Those Wrasses and Tangs are major league swimmers. Great color and swim action all in one fish. Very aggressive as well so they hold their own.

Almost sounds like an action figure or Ronco commercial, eh?

wooddood · 12-01-2003, 12:46 PM

good luck reefman sounds sweet,keep us posted. dave.

EdgeKrusher · 12-01-2003, 12:48 PM

mnreefgeek where are you from? From your handle I want to assume MN, but you know what assumptions do...

Can't wait to see this project shape up.

Peace

EK

mnreefman · 12-01-2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Craig Manoukian
Those Wrasses and Tangs are major league swimmers. Great color and swim action all in one fish. Very aggressive as well so they hold their own.

Almost sounds like an action figure or Ronco commercial, eh?

lol

12-01-2003, 03:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
mnreefman Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,393 View Gallery Karma Komment	my fowlr just set up 2 months ago, pics forth coming once the fish get here.. lil bit of info on it 500 gal 120 gal sump/wetdry mag 24 for return 850w vho 150 lbs cc but going to switch it with a layer of southdown 700lbs lr fish on order 5 fu manch lions (sight to see when they school up) 2 leaf fish and i will be ordering 2 rouge scorpions 1 or 2 bamboo sharks 1 mintas (sp) grouper if anyone has any sugestions as to what else i could/should add... please let me know __________________ http://reefrock.com

12-01-2003, 04:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	Couple of things.... I would personnaly stick w/ the CC since this will be a tank w/ heavy waste producers. CC is much easier to vaccum than sand is... Also since the fu manchu's stay pretty small for a lionfish, you might want to re-think the Miniatus grouper. Its a sharp looking fish, but will get to the full size of about 18 inches pretty quick in a 500 gallon. I would hate to see you lose both the miniatus and a Fu Manchu because the Min tried to eat one and died.... Also, keep in mind that w/ the sharks, you wont be able to dose copper in the event you have an Ich outbreak. Granted on a FOWLR you probably werent going to anyway...just making sure. Howsabout an eel? Dragon morays if you can find 'em, and then if you can afford 'em are nice. They look ferocious, but are a smaller eel. Zebra's are good for sizable eels that arent fish eaters.... Bigger angels would be sharp in a tank like that, so would some of the bigger tangs.... Just some thoughts... Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

12-01-2003, 05:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	Annularis/ Blue ring angels are gorgeous too! harlequin tusk wrasse maybe? __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

12-01-2003, 05:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	From www.liveaquaria.com: Pink Face Wrasse Thalassoma quinquevittatum Banana Wrasse Thalassoma lutescens Paddlefin Wrasse Thalassoma lucasanum Klunzinger's Wrasse Thalassoma klunzingeri __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 05:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Harlequin Tusk Wrasse Choerodon fasciata __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 05:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Tangs: Naso Tang Naso lituratus Vlamingii Tang Naso vlamingii Orange Shoulder Tang Acanthurus olivaceous __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 05:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Angels: Imperator Angel Pomacanthus imperator Annularis AngelPomacanthus imperator French AngelPomacanthus paru __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 06:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: marion. INDIANA Posts: 3,457 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	good job nick & craig good info.thanks. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

12-01-2003, 06:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	You betcha! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 12:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
mnreefman Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,393 View Gallery Karma Komment	thx you guys for pointing that out with the grouper, i forgot to add moray on my list.. i will be getting at least one......... as far as the angel go i kinda want this to be a more of an evil/venaomous tank, i was putting the grouper in for the activity level.. not many (active, smimming fish on my list)..... im not to keen on angels..(sry) __________________ http://reefrock.com

12-01-2003, 12:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Those Wrasses and Tangs are major league swimmers. Great color and swim action all in one fish. Very aggressive as well so they hold their own. Almost sounds like an action figure or Ronco commercial, eh? __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-01-2003, 12:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: marion. INDIANA Posts: 3,457 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	good luck reefman sounds sweet,keep us posted. dave. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

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