Help Picking New Fish plz

ThePuffLife · 07-24-2008, 09:08 PM

OK, ill make a confession... please dont go ballistic on me... my tanks only a 28 gallon... The porc was small enough to fit without any problems, please... the last forum i was on mocked me constantly for it, and i never got any help... Thats why i came to this forum, and why ive never mentioned the size of my tank... I understood that he would get too big...
Anyways, (hoping i still have an ounce of respect on here) what fish would go well in my tank, with a leopard puffer and valentini puffer? Please remember, this is a predator tank. Thanks, all.

lcstorc · 07-24-2008, 09:21 PM

Why add another fish?
You obviously already understand that you are overstocked. Why would you want to increase the problem?

ThePuffLife · 07-24-2008, 09:39 PM

No, no. As i stated in another thread, the porc died due to a major ich problem. The hawk and damsel were murdered a bit before that... So, now ive only got 2 fish... the valentini and leopard puffers.

ThePuffLife · 07-24-2008, 10:24 PM

Hmmm........ could a harlequin bass do ok with a leopard puffer thats more than a little aggressive?

lcstorc · 07-24-2008, 11:26 PM

3 fish is too much for a 28. Sorry. I'm not an agressive fish person anyway but I know they are messy so lots of cleaning and water changes are needed.

plecosword · 07-24-2008, 11:42 PM

Lynn is right, with aggressive fish, you will need to stick with less. Pluss they are bigger. 3 fish could be your limit only if this is a temporarly tank for them. Most of these fish need bigger tanks like 50 and beyond.

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 02:16 AM

Yes, constant water changes, cleaning up the substrate, etc... i rarely have to clean the substrate, as my fish rarely leave any food uneaten... I hate to disagree with you guys... and i respect your opinions and advice... but there will be additions to this tank. Consider this: many aggressive fish can be found in a reef aquarium of this tank size. (banggai cardinals, some pseudochromis, damsels, hawks, etc.)

Wolfgang8810 · 07-25-2008, 02:18 AM

your tank sounds interesting pictures please :-)

lcstorc · 07-25-2008, 08:24 AM

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Would you like to live in a bathroom with 2 other people? Even ignoring the agressiveness that is basically what you are doing.
I'll leave the thread alone now since I have such a strong opinion.

Amphibious · 07-25-2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Would you like to live in a bathroom with 2 other people? Even ignoring the agressiveness that is basically what you are doing.
I'll leave the thread alone now since I have such a strong opinion.

OMG Lynn, that is such a good analogy. I usually use the closet as an example of crowded conditions BUT, from now on I'm following your lead and using the BATHROOM!!!

Some people come here to ask questions, and they already know, ahead of time, that the answer their going to get isn't the answer they want. They are looking for someone to justify their bad behavior. ThePuffLife raised huge red flags for me when he began this post with...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePuffLife

OK, ill make a confession... please dont go ballistic on me... my tanks only a 28 gallon... The porc was small enough to fit without any problems, please... the last forum i was on mocked me constantly for it, and i never got any help... Thats why i came to this forum, and why ive never mentioned the size of my tank... I understood that he would get too big...
Anyways, (hoping i still have an ounce of respect on here) what fish would go well in my tank, with a leopard puffer and valentini puffer? Please remember, this is a predator tank. Thanks, all.

Realize ThePuffLife, no one here is mocking you, just pointing out what you yourself are saying!

You start with a confession. Then you think buying a juvenile fish is justified because "it fit" into your 28. Then your angry that the other forum responders "mocked me" and you "never got any help". So you came to this forum seeking what, advice?, council??? You want us to "PICK a NEW FISH"??? Why? So if it gets eaten or eats your other fish, you can come back and berate the choice? Sorry!!! The best advice has already been given and I concur completely with it.

However, we all do what we want to do in spite of the best advice given by our peers. So, the best of luck in your decision of a tank mate.

Dick

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 12:19 PM

Yes, thank you for not mocking me, as they did on the other forum. "You should get a shark" "you should get an alligator" "and to think, was gonna get rid of my foxface from my 210 because it was too big; now im gonna get a whole school of them!" "Get a titan trigger!" those were common responses on the other forum.

Frankie · 07-25-2008, 12:44 PM

15 For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17 So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.Romans 7:15; 18-20

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 04:21 PM

Perhaps you misunderstood me: the porc fit in the tank just fine. Not crowded. I was willing to take him back to the lfs when he outgrew the tank. So, i have no regrets.

SeahorseBT · 07-25-2008, 04:24 PM

Just beacuse he fit doen't mean he will be happy in a tan that small. I thought you had at least a 100 gallon tank.

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amphibious

You start with a confession. Then you think buying a juvenile fish is justified because "it fit" into your 28. Then your angry that the other forum responders "mocked me" and you "never got any help". So you came to this forum seeking what, advice?, council??? You want us to "PICK a NEW FISH"??? Why? So if it gets eaten or eats your other fish, you can come back and berate the choice? Sorry!!! The best advice has already been given and I concur completely with it.

Dick

Umm... No!!! When have i ever come on here and blamed it on the forum that a fish got killed?????? Never!!!!!! So how dare you say im asking for opinions on a good tankmate just so i can blame it on somone else if they dont get along!!!

07-24-2008, 09:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Help Picking New Fish plz OK, ill make a confession... please dont go ballistic on me... my tanks only a 28 gallon... The porc was small enough to fit without any problems, please... the last forum i was on mocked me constantly for it, and i never got any help... Thats why i came to this forum, and why ive never mentioned the size of my tank... I understood that he would get too big... Anyways, (hoping i still have an ounce of respect on here) what fish would go well in my tank, with a leopard puffer and valentini puffer? Please remember, this is a predator tank. Thanks, all. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-24-2008, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,899 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Why add another fish? You obviously already understand that you are overstocked. Why would you want to increase the problem? __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-24-2008, 09:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz No, no. As i stated in another thread, the porc died due to a major ich problem. The hawk and damsel were murdered a bit before that... So, now ive only got 2 fish... the valentini and leopard puffers. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-24-2008, 10:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Hmmm........ could a harlequin bass do ok with a leopard puffer thats more than a little aggressive? __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-24-2008, 11:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,899 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz 3 fish is too much for a 28. Sorry. I'm not an agressive fish person anyway but I know they are messy so lots of cleaning and water changes are needed. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-24-2008, 11:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,127 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Lynn is right, with aggressive fish, you will need to stick with less. Pluss they are bigger. 3 fish could be your limit only if this is a temporarly tank for them. Most of these fish need bigger tanks like 50 and beyond.

07-25-2008, 02:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Yes, constant water changes, cleaning up the substrate, etc... i rarely have to clean the substrate, as my fish rarely leave any food uneaten... I hate to disagree with you guys... and i respect your opinions and advice... but there will be additions to this tank. Consider this: many aggressive fish can be found in a reef aquarium of this tank size. (banggai cardinals, some pseudochromis, damsels, hawks, etc.) __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-25-2008, 02:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Wolfgang8810 Achilles Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 816 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz your tank sounds interesting pictures please :-) __________________ I love fish! Fish.. fish.. fish!

07-25-2008, 08:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,899 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Would you like to live in a bathroom with 2 other people? Even ignoring the agressiveness that is basically what you are doing. I'll leave the thread alone now since I have such a strong opinion. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-25-2008, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Yes, thank you for not mocking me, as they did on the other forum. "You should get a shark" "you should get an alligator" "and to think, was gonna get rid of my foxface from my 210 because it was too big; now im gonna get a whole school of them!" "Get a titan trigger!" those were common responses on the other forum. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-25-2008, 12:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz 15 For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17 So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.Romans 7:15; 18-20 __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

07-25-2008, 04:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Staring at my Tank Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Perhaps you misunderstood me: the porc fit in the tank just fine. Not crowded. I was willing to take him back to the lfs when he outgrew the tank. So, i have no regrets. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-25-2008, 04:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
SeahorseBT Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Libertyville, IL Posts: 1,056 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Just beacuse he fit doen't mean he will be happy in a tan that small. I thought you had at least a 100 gallon tank. __________________ -Blake http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html -My 46 gallon Seahorse Tank http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html -My 34 gallon mixed reef.

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