Help Picking New Fish plz - Page 2

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SeahorseBT

Just beacuse he fit doen't mean he will be happy in a tan that small. I thought you had at least a 100 gallon tank.

Listen... he didnt just fit, he fit well. Please understand that!

SeahorseBT · 07-25-2008, 05:02 PM

How about a pic.

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 05:17 PM

Sure, maybe ill get some pics up later, but the camera was zoomed in... But you know, it seems to me that everyone is dwelling on the porc. the porcs gone now, whats done is done, i cant change the fact that i put the porc in the tank. But i dont intend to put another fish of that size in my tank. I will now only put fish in that are within min. tank size, according to live aquaria.

lcstorc · 07-25-2008, 06:05 PM

Now I am confused. You original post asked what fish you could put in a 28 with 2 puffers already there. While I agree the puffer that is now dead shouldn't have been there, you said you had 2 more and wanted to add another fish.
Am I missing something here?

rmlevasseur · 07-25-2008, 06:09 PM

Puff, this isn't hard to understand. Everyone feels you can't add more fish, especially with aggressive fish. You disagree, which is fine. But the rest of us don't want to assist you in doing what we feel is wrong for the fish.

One thing about this site. We might debate each other over what is "right" or what is "best", but everyone I have come across here will always put the care of the animal first.

plecosword · 07-25-2008, 06:33 PM

ok, what fish do you have and what do you plan to add?

cheeks69 · 07-25-2008, 07:04 PM

Yes the Valentini does stay relatively small but I would never recommend keeping 2 puffers in such a small tank as aggression issues will certainly arise leading to stress and disease. Also Puffers are messy eaters and high waste producers as has been mentioned, excellent filtration is necessary for these dirty fish, a Protein skimmer is a must IMHO. Although I like LA I would beware of recommended tank sizes by them or any other business.

Also isn't the Leopard Puffer a brackish water fish ? If so don't know how well they would do in a marine type setup.

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by plecosword

ok, what fish do you have and what do you plan to add?

valentini puffer and leopard puffer; hopefully: a pseudochromis and maybe one other fish dont know what; however, there may be a conflict between the puffers and pseudo...

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeks69

Yes the Valentini does stay relatively small but I would never recommend keeping 2 puffers in such a small tank as aggression issues will certainly arise leading to stress and disease. Also Puffers are messy eaters and high waste producers as has been mentioned, excellent filtration is necessary for these dirty fish, a Protein skimmer is a must IMHO. Although I like LA I would beware of recommended tank sizes by them or any other business.

Also isn't the Leopard Puffer a brackish water fish ? If so don't know how well they would do in a marine type setup.

Yes they are my lfs keeps them in salt ive had him since late february... its simply a matter of slowly acclimating them to saltwater.

cheeks69 · 07-25-2008, 07:22 PM

I'm sorry I just can't help you pick another fish, your bio-load is already high and adding anymore fish is a recipe for disaster. Also puffers can be aggressive once established so any smaller fish will be continually nipped or worse.

plecosword · 07-25-2008, 08:57 PM

Puff, is there any way you could get a larger tank for them? Puffers have teeth, I thought they were peacefull, it ate my guppy!

but that was a long time ago.

anyway, seems you want to know what fish are compatible with puffers, This should help you learn what fish can live with each other.
Marine Compatability Chart

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 09:05 PM

Yes, i actually had previously looked at that, which is what made me unsure of whether it would get along with a pseudo... It says with caution... that probably means that with a leopard, it would be bad news... Cheeks, i understand, you dont want to help something you dont agree with. Not a problem.

funkpolice · 07-25-2008, 09:25 PM

I can sympathize with your desire for lots of fish, but like it's already been said, they need more room. Maybe you can get a few more smaller tanks, or a bigger tank at least. Fish are just like cats and dogs, you have a responsibility to provide the best living conditions you possibly can. If you can't change your tank situation, maybe give back the puffers and get a few really small fish. My royal gramma is a really cool looking fish with a ton of personality. I hope everything works out good for you, but you're heading down a dark path in my opinion.
bill

plecosword · 07-25-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by funkpolice

I can sympathize with your desire for lots of fish, but like it's already been said, they need more room. Maybe you can get a few more smaller tanks, or a bigger tank at least. Fish are just like cats and dogs, you have a responsibility to provide the best living conditions you possibly can. If you can't change your tank situation, maybe give back the puffers and get a few really small fish. My royal gramma is a really cool looking fish with a ton of personality. I hope everything works out good for you, but you're heading down a dark path in my opinion.
bill

That's exacly what I was going to say about getting another tank(s).

ThePuffLife · 07-25-2008, 10:07 PM

These fish are small enough to be in my tank... i only want 1 or 2 more fish... that are small... thanks for the politeness, though.

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ThePuffLife Serpent Star Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: My secret place, your'e not invited Posts: 239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Sure, maybe ill get some pics up later, but the camera was zoomed in... But you know, it seems to me that everyone is dwelling on the porc. the porcs gone now, whats done is done, i cant change the fact that i put the porc in the tank. But i dont intend to put another fish of that size in my tank. I will now only put fish in that are within min. tank size, according to live aquaria. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Now I am confused. You original post asked what fish you could put in a 28 with 2 puffers already there. While I agree the puffer that is now dead shouldn't have been there, you said you had 2 more and wanted to add another fish. Am I missing something here? __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

07-25-2008, 06:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,028 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Puff, this isn't hard to understand. Everyone feels you can't add more fish, especially with aggressive fish. You disagree, which is fine. But the rest of us don't want to assist you in doing what we feel is wrong for the fish. One thing about this site. We might debate each other over what is "right" or what is "best", but everyone I have come across here will always put the care of the animal first. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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07-25-2008, 07:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,716 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Yes the Valentini does stay relatively small but I would never recommend keeping 2 puffers in such a small tank as aggression issues will certainly arise leading to stress and disease. Also Puffers are messy eaters and high waste producers as has been mentioned, excellent filtration is necessary for these dirty fish, a Protein skimmer is a must IMHO. Although I like LA I would beware of recommended tank sizes by them or any other business. Also isn't the Leopard Puffer a brackish water fish ? If so don't know how well they would do in a marine type setup. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

07-25-2008, 07:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,716 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz I'm sorry I just can't help you pick another fish, your bio-load is already high and adding anymore fish is a recipe for disaster. Also puffers can be aggressive once established so any smaller fish will be continually nipped or worse. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

07-25-2008, 08:57 PM	#26 (permalink)
plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,031 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Puff, is there any way you could get a larger tank for them? Puffers have teeth, I thought they were peacefull, it ate my guppy! but that was a long time ago. anyway, seems you want to know what fish are compatible with puffers, This should help you learn what fish can live with each other. Marine Compatability Chart __________________ --Andre !!!20g for reals!!!

07-25-2008, 09:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Serpent Star Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: My secret place, your'e not invited Posts: 239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz Yes, i actually had previously looked at that, which is what made me unsure of whether it would get along with a pseudo... It says with caution... that probably means that with a leopard, it would be bad news... Cheeks, i understand, you dont want to help something you dont agree with. Not a problem. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

07-25-2008, 09:25 PM	#28 (permalink)
funkpolice Neon dottyback Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orland Park IL Posts: 615 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz I can sympathize with your desire for lots of fish, but like it's already been said, they need more room. Maybe you can get a few more smaller tanks, or a bigger tank at least. Fish are just like cats and dogs, you have a responsibility to provide the best living conditions you possibly can. If you can't change your tank situation, maybe give back the puffers and get a few really small fish. My royal gramma is a really cool looking fish with a ton of personality. I hope everything works out good for you, but you're heading down a dark path in my opinion. bill

07-25-2008, 10:07 PM	#30 (permalink)
ThePuffLife Serpent Star Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: My secret place, your'e not invited Posts: 239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Picking New Fish plz These fish are small enough to be in my tank... i only want 1 or 2 more fish... that are small... thanks for the politeness, though. __________________ Puff Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning, but give me the man who has pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat. -George Eliot When soldiers have been baptized in the fire of a battle- field, they have all one rank in my eyes. -Napoleon Bonaparte Predator Tank Chronicles: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post496560 28 Bow FOWLR- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...bow-fowlr.html

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