Any thoughts on this skimmer?

newsalt · 02-04-2004, 09:19 AM

Has anyone ever heard of this skimmer?

http://www.pet-expo.com/cgi-bin/FULL...?PARTNUM=AMPS2

Thanks

reefrunner · 02-04-2004, 11:47 AM

It's an air driven skimmer, I wouldn't use one except as a back up or in addition to a better venturi or aspiration skimmer or down draft or injection skimmer etc...

Craig Manoukian · 02-04-2004, 12:24 PM

I agree with RR!

Pro_builder · 02-04-2004, 12:28 PM

I agree with the above posts. A venturi driven skimmer would be a better setup and still on the cheaper side for a skimmer.

newsalt · 02-04-2004, 12:46 PM

Venturi's are noisy aren't they? This aquarium is in our TV room.

Pro_builder · 02-04-2004, 12:49 PM

not really, mine sits right beside my TV and I can't hear it.
It really depends which one you get.
The rea Sea Berlin skimmer is really quiet, that is what I was using before I made my skimmer.

Craig Manoukian · 02-04-2004, 12:53 PM

My Seaclone 150 is very quiet and does a great job. Sits in our TV room no problem!

02-04-2004, 02:28 PM

Air driven skimmers are more efficient, less noisy, require only an airpump, and can be made by you. Venturi skimmers out-do them because you can get a lot more into a smaller skimmer. But if you have the room and know how to make your own air stones, air driven is perfect. The problem with them is that they need to be large and require regular replacement of air stones. Thus, they are more expensive long term. They also require constant adjustment and regular pump maintenance for optimum performance. Under ideal conditions they are the best skimmers. But the real world isn't ideal ...

I know this skimmer. I have had a similar one on a 40 gallon tank. It was my second skimmer. I still have it today but I won't use it. For a 15 gallon tank, it would work perfectly fine. But for the price you would pay (compared to the quality of the skimmer) I would build my own air driven skimmer.

I don't know what these "cheaper" venturi skimmers are that others are recommending but for a little more money I would invest in one of the stronger skimmers that use a water pump.

If your tank is a reef, the quality of the skimmer is very important.

Gina · 02-06-2004, 09:19 AM

We have a Seaclone 150 too and it does a great job. And is quiet.

02-04-2004, 09:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
newsalt Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 584 View Gallery Karma Komment	Any thoughts on this skimmer? Has anyone ever heard of this skimmer? http://www.pet-expo.com/cgi-bin/FULL...?PARTNUM=AMPS2 Thanks __________________ Equipment 120g Reef, (2) 250W XM 20K MH, (2) 110W T12 VHO Super Actinic, MRC MR2 Beckett Skimmer, 55g Sump, Iwaki Return Pump Setup August 2006

02-04-2004, 11:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	It's an air driven skimmer, I wouldn't use one except as a back up or in addition to a better venturi or aspiration skimmer or down draft or injection skimmer etc... __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

02-04-2004, 12:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I agree with RR! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

02-04-2004, 12:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	I agree with the above posts. A venturi driven skimmer would be a better setup and still on the cheaper side for a skimmer. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

02-04-2004, 12:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
newsalt Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 584 View Gallery Karma Komment	Venturi's are noisy aren't they? This aquarium is in our TV room. __________________ Equipment 120g Reef, (2) 250W XM 20K MH, (2) 110W T12 VHO Super Actinic, MRC MR2 Beckett Skimmer, 55g Sump, Iwaki Return Pump Setup August 2006

02-04-2004, 12:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	not really, mine sits right beside my TV and I can't hear it. It really depends which one you get. The rea Sea Berlin skimmer is really quiet, that is what I was using before I made my skimmer. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

02-04-2004, 12:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	My Seaclone 150 is very quiet and does a great job. Sits in our TV room no problem! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

02-04-2004, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
jupiter Posts: n/a View Gallery	Air driven skimmers are more efficient, less noisy, require only an airpump, and can be made by you. Venturi skimmers out-do them because you can get a lot more into a smaller skimmer. But if you have the room and know how to make your own air stones, air driven is perfect. The problem with them is that they need to be large and require regular replacement of air stones. Thus, they are more expensive long term. They also require constant adjustment and regular pump maintenance for optimum performance. Under ideal conditions they are the best skimmers. But the real world isn't ideal ... I know this skimmer. I have had a similar one on a 40 gallon tank. It was my second skimmer. I still have it today but I won't use it. For a 15 gallon tank, it would work perfectly fine. But for the price you would pay (compared to the quality of the skimmer) I would build my own air driven skimmer. I don't know what these "cheaper" venturi skimmers are that others are recommending but for a little more money I would invest in one of the stronger skimmers that use a water pump. If your tank is a reef, the quality of the skimmer is very important.

02-06-2004, 09:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Gina Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,842 View Gallery Karma Komment	We have a Seaclone 150 too and it does a great job. And is quiet. __________________ Gina and Mark's 75 Visit Our Sponsors Gina's Cube Gina

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