flame angel on way out

blythe · 01-08-2004, 11:04 PM

So this is a crappy way to start posting again.

Did some routine tank maintenance today. Cleaned the ornaments, changed the filter chemicals (actually had to change the whole filter because the old one died today). Everything went smoothly, followed the same protocols as usual.

A few hours later, my flame angel is lying on the bottom breathing heavily. It is pretty obvious that it will not make it through the night. All the other fish look and are acting fine.

In my 20 long reef, my bastard pseudochromis has managed to beat (or at least starve) my baby foxface to the brink of death also, I give him two days at most to survive.

What a great way to start the new year! I was gone for two weeks, no problems. Within a week, I am going to lose two fish and a filter.

ARRGGHHH!!!

Playa · 01-08-2004, 11:13 PM

So sorry to hear the bad news:-( It happens that I had the pelotas to introduce a Flame Angel to my reef this afternoon. It is so easy to get attached to them.

johnlewis · 01-08-2004, 11:51 PM

Sorry to hear about the flame.

What did you use to do the cleaning ?

Pro_builder · 01-09-2004, 01:52 AM

sorry to hear about your run of bad luck with your tank inhabitants.

Pro_builder · 01-09-2004, 01:52 AM

blythe, were are you from?

Brucey · 01-09-2004, 02:27 AM

Sorry for your loss ..... when you say you replaced the filter, did you change the filter media too ?? Just checking incase you had an amonia spike afterwards
Brucey

Maxx · 01-09-2004, 06:00 AM

BLythe,
try feeding your foxface some Nori. Put it in two different locations which will allow the fish to graze somewhere out of the pseudo's territory...
I'm sorry to hear that you are going thru troubles...
Nick

blythe · 01-09-2004, 11:16 AM

Ok, so both fish kicked it last night, which sucks.

As far as my cleaning protocol, I soak in bleach water until clean.
THis is followed by at least three rinses in tap water and a final soak in tap water with a crap load of dechlorinator.
This has never been a problemin three years.

The foxface was actually eating up until a few days ago. My best guess is that while I was gone (2 weeks), the reef didn't get fed more than once or twice and even when he started eating again he was already pretty much gone.

Oh well.

Pro_Builder, I am presently in Athens, GA

blythe · 01-09-2004, 11:18 AM

Brucey, I did replace teh filter, but used the sponge filters from teh previous filter to keep my biological filtration.

All of the other inhabitants are fine and ating as if nothing is wrong. I will test the water later to see if anything is going on there.

Thanks everyone.

Craig Manoukian · 01-09-2004, 03:46 PM

Bummer and sorry for your losses. Hang in there, these things happen to everyone over time!

01-08-2004, 11:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
blythe Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 61 View Gallery Karma Komment	flame angel on way out So this is a crappy way to start posting again. Did some routine tank maintenance today. Cleaned the ornaments, changed the filter chemicals (actually had to change the whole filter because the old one died today). Everything went smoothly, followed the same protocols as usual. A few hours later, my flame angel is lying on the bottom breathing heavily. It is pretty obvious that it will not make it through the night. All the other fish look and are acting fine. In my 20 long reef, my bastard pseudochromis has managed to beat (or at least starve) my baby foxface to the brink of death also, I give him two days at most to survive. What a great way to start the new year! I was gone for two weeks, no problems. Within a week, I am going to lose two fish and a filter. ARRGGHHH!!!

01-09-2004, 01:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	sorry to hear about your run of bad luck with your tank inhabitants. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

01-09-2004, 01:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	blythe, were are you from? __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

01-09-2004, 02:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sorry for your loss ..... when you say you replaced the filter, did you change the filter media too ?? Just checking incase you had an amonia spike afterwards Brucey __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

01-09-2004, 06:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	BLythe, try feeding your foxface some Nori. Put it in two different locations which will allow the fish to graze somewhere out of the pseudo's territory... I'm sorry to hear that you are going thru troubles... Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

01-08-2004, 11:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Playa Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,451 View Gallery Karma Komment	So sorry to hear the bad news:-( It happens that I had the pelotas to introduce a Flame Angel to my reef this afternoon. It is so easy to get attached to them.

01-08-2004, 11:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
johnlewis Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton, MI USA Posts: 448 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sorry to hear about the flame. What did you use to do the cleaning ?

01-09-2004, 11:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
blythe Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 61 View Gallery Karma Komment	Ok, so both fish kicked it last night, which sucks. As far as my cleaning protocol, I soak in bleach water until clean. THis is followed by at least three rinses in tap water and a final soak in tap water with a crap load of dechlorinator. This has never been a problemin three years. The foxface was actually eating up until a few days ago. My best guess is that while I was gone (2 weeks), the reef didn't get fed more than once or twice and even when he started eating again he was already pretty much gone. Oh well. Pro_Builder, I am presently in Athens, GA __________________ 75gal FO, Fluval303, 4x random powerheads, 2x65w PC 50/50's, One-spot foxface, Coral Beauty Angel, Niger Trigger, Flame hawk, Yellow Tail damsel, Percula Clown, Blue-Dot Puffer 20 long mini-reef,130w PC 50/50's 3'' DSB, 25lb LR, a bunch of free frags 55g FW Planted, 130W 6700PC's, 2 Marble Veil Angels, Vampire Pleco, tons of random schooling fish

01-09-2004, 11:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
blythe Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 61 View Gallery Karma Komment	Brucey, I did replace teh filter, but used the sponge filters from teh previous filter to keep my biological filtration. All of the other inhabitants are fine and ating as if nothing is wrong. I will test the water later to see if anything is going on there. Thanks everyone. __________________ 75gal FO, Fluval303, 4x random powerheads, 2x65w PC 50/50's, One-spot foxface, Coral Beauty Angel, Niger Trigger, Flame hawk, Yellow Tail damsel, Percula Clown, Blue-Dot Puffer 20 long mini-reef,130w PC 50/50's 3'' DSB, 25lb LR, a bunch of free frags 55g FW Planted, 130W 6700PC's, 2 Marble Veil Angels, Vampire Pleco, tons of random schooling fish

01-09-2004, 03:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 15,732 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Bummer and sorry for your losses. Hang in there, these things happen to everyone over time! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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