Chocolate Tang Question

DARKHOURS · 04-28-2006, 07:23 PM

I have a chocolate Tang and today his eyes look cloudy.. the to yellow tangs look ok..also his body looks to be a bit lighter than he used to..
Thanks

cheeks69 · 04-28-2006, 08:35 PM

We need some more details to be of help.
How big is the tank and how long has it been setup ? Did you quarantine your fish ? What is the current fish list ? Was the fish a new addition ? Is the fish rubbing on the rocks or have white spots along the body ? Was the fish netted recently ?

DARKHOURS · 04-28-2006, 09:07 PM

The tank is 30gal. I only have 3small tangs in that tank (him and two yellow tangs) and they have been In there about 5 1/2 months. he dose seen to bump the rock with his back end ,and I don't seem to see any white spots,

cheeks69 · 04-28-2006, 10:01 PM

A 30 gal tank is way too SMALL for 3 Tangs ! They need room to move and keeping them in tight quarters like you are is going to lead to aggression, stress, disease, and stunted growth. It's possible that it was an inflicted injury or a bacterial infection. What are you using for filtration ? If given proper water parameters it should heal if not then you will need a QT and treat him with an antibiotic.

mps9506 · 04-28-2006, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeks69

A 30 gal tank is way too SMALL for 3 Tangs ! They need room to move and keeping them in tight quarters like you are is going to lead to aggression, stress, disease, and stunted growth. It's possible that it was an inflicted injury or a bacterial infection. What are you using for filtration ? If given proper water parameters it should heal if not then you will need a QT and treat him with an antibiotic.

Ditto.
Even if your water parameteres are perfect that size tank just isn't large enough to house a single tang let alone three.
I would suggest seperating the tangs at the very least before doing any treatments.

Woodstock · 04-28-2006, 10:07 PM

Please give those tangs to someone with a larger tank. Replace them with smaller fish that suit the 30 gal size.

The cloudy eye could be a bacterial infection. What are the water parameters?

DARKHOURS · 04-28-2006, 11:08 PM

all are 0 but nitrate is about 1 And thanks so far ! The tangs will be moved to my 80gal tank when its water parameters arre right.. just started it a little or 4 weeks ago. And today I was looking at a 110 complete for 300 in our buy and sell paper..Im glad the wife loves this hobby as well...Or I would end up in the dog house..

Witfull · 04-29-2006, 02:57 AM

is there room for a tank in the doghouse???...lol

Woodstock · 04-29-2006, 06:25 AM

Ohhhhh GOOD!

The tangs could develop a bacterial infection even with good water param if they are stressed enough to supress their immune system. I think they will be fine once you move them into the 80 as long as they are still eating. Just make sure there are no signs of parasites before moving them; you should QT them for treatment if so.

DARKHOURS · 04-29-2006, 10:21 AM

If they do have a bacterial infection And I do treat them.. what is the best way of doing so... I have read you can do it the natural way raising water temp.more oxygen etc.. If I go the chemical way all I could up north in Canada was PimaFix
and would it be safe for all my Corals ?

cheeks69 · 04-29-2006, 10:32 AM

Never treat in the main tank use a QT only !

Woodstock · 04-29-2006, 10:42 AM

Do not dose anything in your reef. Cycle a QT and treat them seperately in that. I am not familiar with PimaFix. I would choose a broad spectrum antibiotic and dose it only in a QT. Watch the param because the antibiotic will disturb the nitrifying bacteria.

DARKHOURS · 04-29-2006, 11:35 AM

Thanks im setting up a QT now. I can see what you are saying . The other Question, after QT what should I do to the main tank and how do I know its safe (main tank)to put fish back into it. wont the main tank still have the infection in the water? should I but his best buddy the yellow tang in the QT tank to or is he not Infected he look ok..

Woodstock · 04-29-2006, 12:39 PM

For bacterial issues... frequent water changes and cleanliness will reduce it enough so that healthy fish can resist any infections.

For parasites... keeping the tank fallow (fish free) for 6-8 weeks works well.

04-28-2006, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
DARKHOURS Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Chocolate Tang Question I have a chocolate Tang and today his eyes look cloudy.. the to yellow tangs look ok..also his body looks to be a bit lighter than he used to.. Thanks

04-28-2006, 08:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,526 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question We need some more details to be of help. How big is the tank and how long has it been setup ? Did you quarantine your fish ? What is the current fish list ? Was the fish a new addition ? Is the fish rubbing on the rocks or have white spots along the body ? Was the fish netted recently ? __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-28-2006, 09:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
DARKHOURS Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question The tank is 30gal. I only have 3small tangs in that tank (him and two yellow tangs) and they have been In there about 5 1/2 months. he dose seen to bump the rock with his back end ,and I don't seem to see any white spots,

04-28-2006, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,526 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question A 30 gal tank is way too SMALL for 3 Tangs ! They need room to move and keeping them in tight quarters like you are is going to lead to aggression, stress, disease, and stunted growth. It's possible that it was an inflicted injury or a bacterial infection. What are you using for filtration ? If given proper water parameters it should heal if not then you will need a QT and treat him with an antibiotic. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-28-2006, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,655 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chocolate Tang Question Please give those tangs to someone with a larger tank. Replace them with smaller fish that suit the 30 gal size. The cloudy eye could be a bacterial infection. What are the water parameters? __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

04-28-2006, 11:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
DARKHOURS Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question all are 0 but nitrate is about 1 And thanks so far ! The tangs will be moved to my 80gal tank when its water parameters arre right.. just started it a little or 4 weeks ago. And today I was looking at a 110 complete for 300 in our buy and sell paper..Im glad the wife loves this hobby as well...Or I would end up in the dog house..

04-29-2006, 06:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,655 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chocolate Tang Question Ohhhhh GOOD! The tangs could develop a bacterial infection even with good water param if they are stressed enough to supress their immune system. I think they will be fine once you move them into the 80 as long as they are still eating. Just make sure there are no signs of parasites before moving them; you should QT them for treatment if so. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

04-29-2006, 10:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
DARKHOURS Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question If they do have a bacterial infection And I do treat them.. what is the best way of doing so... I have read you can do it the natural way raising water temp.more oxygen etc.. If I go the chemical way all I could up north in Canada was PimaFix and would it be safe for all my Corals ?

04-29-2006, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,526 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question Never treat in the main tank use a QT only ! __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-29-2006, 10:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,655 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chocolate Tang Question Do not dose anything in your reef. Cycle a QT and treat them seperately in that. I am not familiar with PimaFix. I would choose a broad spectrum antibiotic and dose it only in a QT. Watch the param because the antibiotic will disturb the nitrifying bacteria. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

04-29-2006, 11:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
DARKHOURS Tunicate Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chocolate Tang Question Thanks im setting up a QT now. I can see what you are saying . The other Question, after QT what should I do to the main tank and how do I know its safe (main tank)to put fish back into it. wont the main tank still have the infection in the water? should I but his best buddy the yellow tang in the QT tank to or is he not Infected he look ok..

04-29-2006, 12:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,655 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chocolate Tang Question For bacterial issues... frequent water changes and cleanliness will reduce it enough so that healthy fish can resist any infections. For parasites... keeping the tank fallow (fish free) for 6-8 weeks works well. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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