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Old 03-21-2006, 10:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it to many fish?

I have a 55 gal with one foxface, coral beauty (angel), snowflake eel, two clowns (nemo), 6 damsels, one hawk fish, one squirrel fish and a mandrin. Haven't had a problem but looking to add more coral. I have one rock with zoes, and one with mushroom but would like to add more. Filters are a 304 fuval and a 2227 eheim. Just looking for opinions. Thanks
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is it to many fish?

Welcome to RS! besides the canister filters how else are you filtering your tank?? seems like a high bio load for a 55 gal.
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Old 03-21-2006, 12:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Is it to many fish?

I have a seaclone 100 and a wavemaker powerhead.
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Is it to many fish?

I don't know the size of your fish, so here is part of an article I read and the link to it below.....let me know what you find.

Stocking Capacity of a Marine System:
The first thing you will probably need to know is how many fish you can keep in a particular sized aquarium. The most common formula for the amount of fish you can safely keep is based on the number of gallons of water in the aquarium. For a marine aquarium the formula states that you can:

1. Keep 1 inch of fish for each 5 gallons of water.
This simple method doesn't take into account the surface area of the water (for oxygenation), the filtration system (for removal of wastes), and the general size of the fish. For instance, a fish that is 6 inches long needs a lot more oxygen than 6 fish that are 1 inch long. In general you should reduce the amount of fish if they are larger, and increase the amount of fish if they are smaller. Another method is to:

2. Calculate the surface area of the aquarium and divide by 48 to get the number of inches of fish the aquarium can handle.
This method takes into account the aquarium shape but not the filtration or the size of the fish. The second formula favors aquariums that are shorter and wider i.e. not 'showtanks' which are taller and skinnier.
In general the more complicated formulas are not worth the trouble if you don't approach the maximum number of fish calculated by the above formulas. Perhaps if anyone shows interest, we can write more on this later.

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Re: Is it to many fish?

In my personal opinion you are way overstocked especially if your considering having a reef ! What are your nitrate levels at ? If your planning to keep the current stock list then I would seriously consider upgrading the skimmer, there's no way the Seaclone can effectively handle the amount of waste that tank is producing !
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Old 03-21-2006, 09:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Is it to many fish?

Thanks for the infro. I will probibly take back to the LFS my snowflake eel, he 12 inches long and my squirrel fish
4 inches and see if I can get the nirates down.
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You have a very large bioload which is detrimental to the fishes health due to the physical crowding and water quality. Do what it takes to keep the nitrAtes down to 10 ppm or less.... removing fish, increasing the volume and frequency of water changes, upgrade to a better skimmer, remove ditritus, clean filters, etc....
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I am currently setting up a new tank in which I want a fish only tank, I have 32 gallons and from the two formulas posted to calculate how many fish, the first one calculates that I can only have 6inches and the 2nd on calculates 34inches. Which is correct as I already have six fish that I am planning to put in there once full maturation has occured.
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