Horn-E kudas

Terri · 01-02-2008, 10:43 AM

in case im not allowed to say this. after putting them in the main tank last night, they have got to friendly. not with each other, they hate each other each one is rubbing and bumping the barbs it looks a little rough. I thought the kudas were to young .How will i know if the female has eggs .Do you see them before she gives them to the male. Even the male is trying with the male. The barbs are larger than the kudas. so he just moves away.

Terri · 01-02-2008, 05:49 PM

The female just moved toward the male kuda and snicked his head hard . It looked like a bite, he jerked away. I've never seen that before from any of my horses. is it because their of the same batch, heard, what ever they call it. That brings up ? . does it matter if they mate together. Will the babies be weak.

panmanmatt · 01-02-2008, 05:55 PM

It's probably just her way of saying she has a headache.

They will let each other know when they do and don't want to be bothered.

They can interbreed between the 2 species. No guarantee what the babies will be like. I haven't heard of kuda and barbs cross breeding but doesn't mean it can't happen.

As for the kuda being too young, they are usually sexual mature at about 6 months of age. Your's are essential teeneagers, when have you not seen a horn-e teenager?

BEELZEBOB · 01-02-2008, 05:58 PM

wow.

the whole thread just whooshed over my head.

i got seahorses though

Terri · 01-02-2008, 06:47 PM

Im sorry.. i wanted to know if brother and sister could mate. Thats if they got along.

lcstorc · 01-02-2008, 06:52 PM

Glad you are asking. I was thinking the same thing the other day when I ordered my ponies. I am sure they are coming from the same hatch or whatever it is called and I was worried about in-breeding as well.

panmanmatt · 01-02-2008, 06:53 PM

Sure they can. It's not considered incest in the seahorse world.

I believe you can go up to4 or 5 generations without showing signs of defects. Of course every case is different and you may see them with the first pairing. Without knowing the horses origin you can't really tell if they are even brother/sister from the same brood of fry or even from the same parents.

BEELZEBOB · 01-02-2008, 06:55 PM

your gonna have red neck seahorses!

theyll all be ugly and bump into stuff!

panmanmatt · 01-02-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Glad you are asking. I was thinking the same thing the other day when I ordered my ponies. I am sure they are coming from the same hatch or whatever it is called and I was worried about in-breeding as well.

Lynn, you can request different lineage. They keep records of all their births and can tell you exactly who the parents of each are.

All of the ones from SeahorseSource are 1st generation CB, I believe they are anyway. All his brood stock is wild caught so as far as they know there pairs aren't related.

lcstorc · 01-02-2008, 07:03 PM

Great to know.
Thanks.

Terri · 01-02-2008, 07:17 PM

I didn't know that. I would think they would be hard to tell after they got the same size. they change color, who can tell which kids belong to who. So i can ask for one of joes kids and one of smiths kids. that way no interbreeding.

JFK_Jr · 01-02-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEELZEBOB

your gonna have red neck seahorses!

theyll all be ugly and bump into stuff!

Just make sure to run when you start to hear "Dueling Banjos" in the background!

panmanmatt · 01-02-2008, 07:31 PM

They keep all the batches separated and labeled as to what parents they came from. You'd be surprised as to the amount of recording keeping they do.

Terri · 01-02-2008, 07:44 PM

Nice to know .When are you having babies? for now i'll play the banjos! i know mine are related.

panmanmatt · 01-02-2008, 07:52 PM

I only have males so if I get babies it's gonna be a miracle.

Don't worry about the banjos, you won't need them. They will be just fine.

01-02-2008, 10:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Terri Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 155 View Gallery Karma Komment	Horn-E kudas in case im not allowed to say this. after putting them in the main tank last night, they have got to friendly. not with each other, they hate each other each one is rubbing and bumping the barbs it looks a little rough. I thought the kudas were to young .How will i know if the female has eggs .Do you see them before she gives them to the male. Even the male is trying with the male. The barbs are larger than the kudas. so he just moves away.

01-02-2008, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Terri Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 155 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas The female just moved toward the male kuda and snicked his head hard . It looked like a bite, he jerked away. I've never seen that before from any of my horses. is it because their of the same batch, heard, what ever they call it. That brings up ? . does it matter if they mate together. Will the babies be weak.

01-02-2008, 05:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas It's probably just her way of saying she has a headache. They will let each other know when they do and don't want to be bothered. They can interbreed between the 2 species. No guarantee what the babies will be like. I haven't heard of kuda and barbs cross breeding but doesn't mean it can't happen. As for the kuda being too young, they are usually sexual mature at about 6 months of age. Your's are essential teeneagers, when have you not seen a horn-e teenager? __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-02-2008, 05:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas wow. the whole thread just whooshed over my head. i got seahorses though __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

01-02-2008, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Terri Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 155 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas Im sorry.. i wanted to know if brother and sister could mate. Thats if they got along.

01-02-2008, 06:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Horn-E kudas Glad you are asking. I was thinking the same thing the other day when I ordered my ponies. I am sure they are coming from the same hatch or whatever it is called and I was worried about in-breeding as well. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

01-02-2008, 06:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas Sure they can. It's not considered incest in the seahorse world. I believe you can go up to4 or 5 generations without showing signs of defects. Of course every case is different and you may see them with the first pairing. Without knowing the horses origin you can't really tell if they are even brother/sister from the same brood of fry or even from the same parents. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-02-2008, 06:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas your gonna have red neck seahorses! theyll all be ugly and bump into stuff! __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

01-02-2008, 07:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Horn-E kudas Great to know. Thanks. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

01-02-2008, 07:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Terri Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 155 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas I didn't know that. I would think they would be hard to tell after they got the same size. they change color, who can tell which kids belong to who. So i can ask for one of joes kids and one of smiths kids. that way no interbreeding.

01-02-2008, 07:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas They keep all the batches separated and labeled as to what parents they came from. You'd be surprised as to the amount of recording keeping they do. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-02-2008, 07:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Terri Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 155 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas Nice to know .When are you having babies? for now i'll play the banjos! i know mine are related.

01-02-2008, 07:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Horn-E kudas I only have males so if I get babies it's gonna be a miracle. Don't worry about the banjos, you won't need them. They will be just fine. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

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