Should I do it? - Page 5

lcstorc · 08-06-2007, 06:03 AM

I think I am going to go back today even though he is closed. The inport side of the business is open so I just have to get one of the 2 owner's attention and they will let me in for more investigation.
BTW Doni, when you come down here it is a definite stop on our lfs tour. Now that I know these guys and they know me I can pretty much do what I want and you really should see the import side of the biz. Very interresting. Plus he tends to stock things I don't see very often elsewhere like harlequins and sexy shrimp. Throw in the fact that he is the supplier for Trident and you can see what I mean. The import side though is not corals. For those he brings them back from somewhere in Miami. He does major fish and inverts as well as LR etc on the import side. Really cool to look around though. Since he ships everywhere I am sure he has oxygen for the bags on anything you decide you want to bring home.

Woodstock · 08-06-2007, 06:38 AM

Allen - I read a ton of info yesterday about leveling aquariums. It seems that rigid foam is good for slight non-planar areas between the tank and stand surface but it is NOT meant to correct unlevel stands. Leveling should be fixed between the floor and stand.

Lynn- they supply Trident!? We will have to check them out for sure!

lcstorc · 08-06-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

Allen - I read a ton of info yesterday about leveling aquariums. It seems that rigid foam is good for slight non-planar areas between the tank and stand surface but it is NOT meant to correct unlevel stands. Leveling should be fixed between the floor and stand.

Lynn- they supply Trident!? We will have to check them out for sure!

Yes they do. May not be the only supplier but Cat and I both got very confused when we saw the Trident guy (the old guy) there. Now that I know the owner he told me they supply most of the fish to Trident.
BTW he also does not like the N place or the stinky place.

BigAl07 · 08-06-2007, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodstock

Allen - I read a ton of info yesterday about leveling aquariums. It seems that rigid foam is good for slight non-planar areas between the tank and stand surface but it is NOT meant to correct unlevel stands. Leveling should be fixed between the floor and stand.

I agree that the "Stand" should be as level as possible before anything else. Just like building a house your FOUNDATION must be perfect or else everything else is exponentially wrong. It's worth the time and effort to do whatever it takes to level FIRST (at least as much as you can because when water is added there could be some differential settling of components creating a slight un-leveling). But even with all of the in mind the idea of applying a rigid foam (Dow board or house sheathing foam) bothers me. I mean if the frame compresses the foam under it that leaves the glass sitting directly ON the foam which in turn will apply at least SOME pressure to the glass itself. Maybe it's not enough pressure to cause problems but it's a point of concern for me none the less. Maybe I'll see what you and Lynn do and go from there *Evil Grin*

BigAl07 · 08-06-2007, 08:04 PM

so DID you go back today? I think I am ordering Mine tomorrow. I just have to decide on 90 or 120g.

Allen

lcstorc · 08-06-2007, 08:28 PM

I was way to busy today with family stuff so I am being good and waiting.
I want to go back and price out the 90. I love the bow but the 90 is Oceanic and just looks better put toghether. If he will give me the same or a close price on the 90 I will probably do that. I know hubby will hate the stand on the 72.

Decisions decisions. I will probably hold off and make the purchase on Saturday. I do not want to rush this. I want to make sure it is well thought out and I have a solid plan before I buy for once.

I was just at Fosters and Smith pricing sand and it apears the pumps are slightly cheaper there as well. I already buy my salt from them and am on my last bucket so I need to order salt regardless. I was looking at the dry aragonite sand so if anyone has a better idea let me know. I think it was about $500 for 2 buckets of Pro Reef. 120 lbs of sand and 2 950 mag pumps. That included shipping so I didn't think it was too out of line. I am debating the substrate though since ultimately I want one or two blue spot jawfish and I think they like a larger sand. The seahorses aren't likely to care. They want hitching posts and I have a great gorgonian that frags easisly and he sells the red and yellow on the import side so I know I can get those pretty cheaply. I'll find a few more things before I get the ponies anyway.

rebekwl · 08-06-2007, 09:38 PM

Yay, how exciting!! I can't wait to see it all set up!! You'll be an awesome Seahorse mommy!

lcstorc · 08-06-2007, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the words of encouragement but the last 2 times I was not a good mommy. This time I am determimed to do it right.

rebekwl · 08-06-2007, 09:45 PM

You tried hard to keep the temp down, it just wouldn't stay for you. I'm sure having the chiller hooked up directly to the new tank will be awesome though! Those horseys will be super happy

caitrina · 08-07-2007, 12:12 AM

Was talking to Matt in at Trident the other day about the $%#$%%$#$% that ran off with my 300.00 light here in Sebastian when they closed up and we were talking about other LFS and of course we talked about Hidden Reef. Also today when I was in he said yep you are going to have another tank before Christmas...lol...I rearranged furniture (rock) today and had a few empty spaces to fill so I went to Trident. Anyway, looking forward to my tank the 24...ROTF

Woodstock · 08-07-2007, 04:57 AM

LOL @ the "N place and stinky place"!

Allen, go with the 120 and safe yourself a painful upgrade later

lcstorc · 08-07-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by caitrina

Was talking to Matt in at Trident the other day about the $%#$%%$#$% that ran off with my 300.00 light here in Sebastian when they closed up and we were talking about other LFS and of course we talked about Hidden Reef. Also today when I was in he said yep you are going to have another tank before Christmas...lol...I rearranged furniture (rock) today and had a few empty spaces to fill so I went to Trident. Anyway, looking forward to my tank the 24...ROTF

Who ran off with your light? I'll be mad at them with you.
Oh but why on earth did you go to Trident without me? I would have met you there. Maybe it was a work day. That would be a good excuse.

Yes I strongly suspect the 24 will be for sale soon. You of course have first dibs if you are really interrested.

bluespotjawfish · 08-07-2007, 06:27 AM

I'd go for the 90 myself!

As for the jawfish, the CaribSea Special Grade Reef Sand works well because it has different gradients in it. The last stuff I got was a single size and doesn't work well at all, it collapses! I would also add lots of rubble to get the larger sizes that they like. No need to spend your money on live sand either.

The Bluespot Club

If you do the Bluespot jawfish, I would just get one of them based on my experience (and I guess your's as well). If you want multiple jawfish the pearlies would probably be a better choice.

boozeman · 08-07-2007, 07:49 AM

will today be the day Lynn comes back home with a new tank in the back of her car? ....stay tuned for the next chapter

BigAl07 · 08-07-2007, 08:20 AM

Ok I re-priced my set-up as a 120g and JUST the additional tank space costs $200. Then additional lights, rock, LS, Stand etc that really puts Me at the TOP of my budget with little to no wiggle room. I would LOVE the extra volume but I just can't justify the extra cost. If I go 120 I would have to make cuts somewhere else (skimmer, lights etc) and I'm not willing to make those cuts.

Thanks for the advice but I think it's 90g for me.

Lynn, you gonna get the 90 this weekend?

Allen

08-06-2007, 06:03 AM	#61 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? I think I am going to go back today even though he is closed. The inport side of the business is open so I just have to get one of the 2 owner's attention and they will let me in for more investigation. BTW Doni, when you come down here it is a definite stop on our lfs tour. Now that I know these guys and they know me I can pretty much do what I want and you really should see the import side of the biz. Very interresting. Plus he tends to stock things I don't see very often elsewhere like harlequins and sexy shrimp. Throw in the fact that he is the supplier for Trident and you can see what I mean. The import side though is not corals. For those he brings them back from somewhere in Miami. He does major fish and inverts as well as LR etc on the import side. Really cool to look around though. Since he ships everywhere I am sure he has oxygen for the bags on anything you decide you want to bring home. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

08-06-2007, 06:38 AM	#62 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? Allen - I read a ton of info yesterday about leveling aquariums. It seems that rigid foam is good for slight non-planar areas between the tank and stand surface but it is NOT meant to correct unlevel stands. Leveling should be fixed between the floor and stand. Lynn- they supply Trident!? We will have to check them out for sure! __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

08-06-2007, 08:04 PM	#65 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,521 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? so DID you go back today? I think I am ordering Mine tomorrow. I just have to decide on 90 or 120g. Allen __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

08-06-2007, 08:28 PM	#66 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? I was way to busy today with family stuff so I am being good and waiting. I want to go back and price out the 90. I love the bow but the 90 is Oceanic and just looks better put toghether. If he will give me the same or a close price on the 90 I will probably do that. I know hubby will hate the stand on the 72. Decisions decisions. I will probably hold off and make the purchase on Saturday. I do not want to rush this. I want to make sure it is well thought out and I have a solid plan before I buy for once. I was just at Fosters and Smith pricing sand and it apears the pumps are slightly cheaper there as well. I already buy my salt from them and am on my last bucket so I need to order salt regardless. I was looking at the dry aragonite sand so if anyone has a better idea let me know. I think it was about $500 for 2 buckets of Pro Reef. 120 lbs of sand and 2 950 mag pumps. That included shipping so I didn't think it was too out of line. I am debating the substrate though since ultimately I want one or two blue spot jawfish and I think they like a larger sand. The seahorses aren't likely to care. They want hitching posts and I have a great gorgonian that frags easisly and he sells the red and yellow on the import side so I know I can get those pretty cheaply. I'll find a few more things before I get the ponies anyway. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

08-06-2007, 09:38 PM	#67 (permalink)
rebekwl Achilles Tang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 846 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Should I do it? Yay, how exciting!! I can't wait to see it all set up!! You'll be an awesome Seahorse mommy! __________________ Rebekah Member of: Snails Are Stupid Society 90 Gallon Display w/ 2-3" LS & 100-120 lbs. LR. 20 Gal sump w/fuge that has 4" sand, LR and rubble, and Chaeto. CUC - Lots of assorted snails, 3 conchs, Serpent Starfish, Hermit Crabs, Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Sand Sifting Starfish (I think that's it). Fish - Bi-Color Blenny, Orange Spotted Prawn Goby, Scooter Blenny, Clarkii Clownfish, Yellow Watchman Goby, Fiji Devil Damsel, Tomini Tang, Sailfin Tang, Lawnmower Blenny, and Pink Skunk Clown. Corals/inverts - Pink Branching Hammer Coral, Green Branching Hammer Coral, Torch Coral, Frogspawn, Bubble Coral, Neon Green Fungia, Green Star Polyps, Cup Mushroom, Green Candy Cane, Kenya Tree, Pom Pom Xenia, Toadstool Leather, Finger Leather, Devil's Hand Leather, LOTS of shrooms (red, green, blue), Orange Sponge, Green Monti Plate, Brown Gorgonian, Blundell Buttons, Flower Pot, Zoanthids, Palys, Green BTA

08-06-2007, 09:42 PM	#68 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? Thanks for the words of encouragement but the last 2 times I was not a good mommy. This time I am determimed to do it right. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

08-06-2007, 09:45 PM	#69 (permalink)
rebekwl Achilles Tang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 846 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Should I do it? You tried hard to keep the temp down, it just wouldn't stay for you. I'm sure having the chiller hooked up directly to the new tank will be awesome though! Those horseys will be super happy __________________ Rebekah Member of: Snails Are Stupid Society 90 Gallon Display w/ 2-3" LS & 100-120 lbs. LR. 20 Gal sump w/fuge that has 4" sand, LR and rubble, and Chaeto. CUC - Lots of assorted snails, 3 conchs, Serpent Starfish, Hermit Crabs, Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Sand Sifting Starfish (I think that's it). Fish - Bi-Color Blenny, Orange Spotted Prawn Goby, Scooter Blenny, Clarkii Clownfish, Yellow Watchman Goby, Fiji Devil Damsel, Tomini Tang, Sailfin Tang, Lawnmower Blenny, and Pink Skunk Clown. Corals/inverts - Pink Branching Hammer Coral, Green Branching Hammer Coral, Torch Coral, Frogspawn, Bubble Coral, Neon Green Fungia, Green Star Polyps, Cup Mushroom, Green Candy Cane, Kenya Tree, Pom Pom Xenia, Toadstool Leather, Finger Leather, Devil's Hand Leather, LOTS of shrooms (red, green, blue), Orange Sponge, Green Monti Plate, Brown Gorgonian, Blundell Buttons, Flower Pot, Zoanthids, Palys, Green BTA

08-07-2007, 12:12 AM	#70 (permalink)
caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,588 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? Was talking to Matt in at Trident the other day about the $%#$%%$#$% that ran off with my 300.00 light here in Sebastian when they closed up and we were talking about other LFS and of course we talked about Hidden Reef. Also today when I was in he said yep you are going to have another tank before Christmas...lol...I rearranged furniture (rock) today and had a few empty spaces to fill so I went to Trident. Anyway, looking forward to my tank the 24...ROTF __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

08-07-2007, 04:57 AM	#71 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? LOL @ the "N place and stinky place"! Allen, go with the 120 and safe yourself a painful upgrade later __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

08-07-2007, 06:27 AM	#73 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Should I do it? I'd go for the 90 myself! As for the jawfish, the CaribSea Special Grade Reef Sand works well because it has different gradients in it. The last stuff I got was a single size and doesn't work well at all, it collapses! I would also add lots of rubble to get the larger sizes that they like. No need to spend your money on live sand either. The Bluespot Club If you do the Bluespot jawfish, I would just get one of them based on my experience (and I guess your's as well). If you want multiple jawfish the pearlies would probably be a better choice. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

08-07-2007, 07:49 AM	#74 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? will today be the day Lynn comes back home with a new tank in the back of her car? ....stay tuned for the next chapter __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

08-07-2007, 08:20 AM	#75 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,521 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Should I do it? Ok I re-priced my set-up as a 120g and JUST the additional tank space costs $200. Then additional lights, rock, LS, Stand etc that really puts Me at the TOP of my budget with little to no wiggle room. I would LOVE the extra volume but I just can't justify the extra cost. If I go 120 I would have to make cuts somewhere else (skimmer, lights etc) and I'm not willing to make those cuts. Thanks for the advice but I think it's 90g for me. Lynn, you gonna get the 90 this weekend? Allen __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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