Fish ID please

Cougra · 03-08-2005, 10:43 PM

I have recently seen a fish that I'm unfamiliar with and would like an ID if at all possible please. I know the quality of the photos isn't good but they are the best ones I have. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Travis · 03-08-2005, 10:48 PM

Is that saltwater?

Looks like a cichlid... or a cross between a killifish and a jack dempsey!

Cougra · 03-08-2005, 11:01 PM

Travis, it is a saltwater fish. I don't even know where to start looking for the ID on this fish. It's a bottom dwelling fish and has an extremely flexible body. It can move it's head back and forth without moving the rest of the body. It's a very alert fish that follows all movement around.

Travis · 03-08-2005, 11:29 PM

That tail and the blunt nose reminds me of saltwater killifish I used to collect. You might start there.

Possibly the hardiest saltwater fish on the planet...

NaH2O · 03-09-2005, 12:01 AM

Michelle - any ideas where it originated from? Might be one to ask for help from John Randall. I checked tilefish, sand perches, and weed blennies - but there were obvious differences in most genus. ????????

Eric · 03-09-2005, 12:18 AM

try groupers / rock bass looks kinda like serranidae grouper

gussy · 03-09-2005, 02:44 AM

Jawfish?

mps9506 · 03-09-2005, 09:44 AM

I don't believe it is a killifish (fundulus sp.) because of the dorsal spines. The dorsal fin would be set farther back and only be composed of soft rays.

It does look a bit like a serranidae to me, but I can't tell from the picture alone. If it is possible to count or take a picture of the dorsal spines and anal rays that would be an awesome way to id it, esp. if you have any ideas on where it came from.
The pelvic fins don't look familiar with any groupers I'm familiar with.

mps9506 · 03-09-2005, 09:51 AM

Is there a spot on the anterior portion of the dorsal fin?
I was thinking it looks kind of like Calloplesiops altivelis (Marine comet, marine betta).

Cougra · 03-09-2005, 10:19 AM

No, I don't know where it came from and unfortunately it's a picture from a fish in the LFS. I don't know if it'll be possible to get a better picture.

It's not a marine betta, it's got the wrong body shape and it's definately a bottom dwelling fish.

Eric · 03-10-2005, 02:58 AM

you sure they didn't throw a fresh water fish in salt by accident looks like a stressed out jewel cic. LOL I got no clue and I've looked all over the place somebody ID this fish it's bugging me

Cougra · 03-10-2005, 09:02 AM

LOL Eek, yes I'm sure it's not a freshwater fish!

We have finally ID'ed it for those of you who are curious!

Plesiops corallicola

If you have a fast connection I also have a small video clip (1.3MB clip) of it on my website. (I know I messed up with page formating.)

http://www.fishtanksandponds.net/mov...cola_movie.htm

It's commonly found in Indo-Pacific: Madagascar to the Line Islands; north to southern Japan, south to the southern Great Barrier Reef and Tonga. Throughout Micronesia.

NaH2O · 03-10-2005, 09:24 AM

Awesome Michelle!

I would see if fishbase would like a copy of the picture you have....the one on their website is pretty poor. For those interested here's some more info: Species Summary

Eric · 03-10-2005, 09:27 AM

I was curious that was bugging me thank you

I look at atleast 1000 different pic trying to find it not sure why it just got my intrest still say it's fresh water or atleast brakish lol that is one ugly fish I like him

Tarasco · 03-10-2005, 11:50 AM

Not a very active guy, is he? Glad that you figured out what it is.

03-08-2005, 11:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	Travis, it is a saltwater fish. I don't even know where to start looking for the ID on this fish. It's a bottom dwelling fish and has an extremely flexible body. It can move it's head back and forth without moving the rest of the body. It's a very alert fish that follows all movement around. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

03-09-2005, 12:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,928 View Gallery Karma Komment	Michelle - any ideas where it originated from? Might be one to ask for help from John Randall. I checked tilefish, sand perches, and weed blennies - but there were obvious differences in most genus. ???????? __________________ ~Nikki~

03-09-2005, 09:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte and Wilmington, NC Posts: 6,862 View Gallery Karma Komment	I don't believe it is a killifish (fundulus sp.) because of the dorsal spines. The dorsal fin would be set farther back and only be composed of soft rays. It does look a bit like a serranidae to me, but I can't tell from the picture alone. If it is possible to count or take a picture of the dorsal spines and anal rays that would be an awesome way to id it, esp. if you have any ideas on where it came from. The pelvic fins don't look familiar with any groupers I'm familiar with. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

03-09-2005, 09:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte and Wilmington, NC Posts: 6,862 View Gallery Karma Komment	Is there a spot on the anterior portion of the dorsal fin? I was thinking it looks kind of like Calloplesiops altivelis (Marine comet, marine betta). __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

03-09-2005, 10:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	No, I don't know where it came from and unfortunately it's a picture from a fish in the LFS. I don't know if it'll be possible to get a better picture. It's not a marine betta, it's got the wrong body shape and it's definately a bottom dwelling fish. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

03-08-2005, 10:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,330 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Is that saltwater? Looks like a cichlid... or a cross between a killifish and a jack dempsey!

03-08-2005, 11:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Travis Smilie Bartender Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,330 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	That tail and the blunt nose reminds me of saltwater killifish I used to collect. You might start there. Possibly the hardiest saltwater fish on the planet...

03-09-2005, 12:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
Eric Neon dottyback Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 685 View Gallery Karma Komment	try groupers / rock bass looks kinda like serranidae grouper

03-09-2005, 02:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
gussy Torch coral Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 579 View Gallery Karma Komment	Jawfish?

03-10-2005, 02:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Eric Neon dottyback Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 685 View Gallery Karma Komment	you sure they didn't throw a fresh water fish in salt by accident looks like a stressed out jewel cic. LOL I got no clue and I've looked all over the place somebody ID this fish it's bugging me

03-10-2005, 09:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	LOL Eek, yes I'm sure it's not a freshwater fish! We have finally ID'ed it for those of you who are curious! Plesiops corallicola If you have a fast connection I also have a small video clip (1.3MB clip) of it on my website. (I know I messed up with page formating.) http://www.fishtanksandponds.net/mov...cola_movie.htm It's commonly found in Indo-Pacific: Madagascar to the Line Islands; north to southern Japan, south to the southern Great Barrier Reef and Tonga. Throughout Micronesia. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

03-10-2005, 09:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,928 View Gallery Karma Komment	Awesome Michelle! I would see if fishbase would like a copy of the picture you have....the one on their website is pretty poor. For those interested here's some more info: Species Summary __________________ ~Nikki~

03-10-2005, 09:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
Eric Neon dottyback Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 685 View Gallery Karma Komment	I was curious that was bugging me thank you I look at atleast 1000 different pic trying to find it not sure why it just got my intrest still say it's fresh water or atleast brakish lol that is one ugly fish I like him

03-10-2005, 11:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tarasco Plate Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 724 View Gallery Karma Komment	Not a very active guy, is he? Glad that you figured out what it is. __________________ Mike "I saw what the governor makes. That's like four hands of blackjack." -- Charles Barkley on why he wasn't seriously considering becoming the Governor of Alabama

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