help with clown

keithrett · 10-25-2009, 02:50 AM

I just got small/medium small picasso clowns last week (thursday) and put them in my 20 gallon tank, both of them have been acting normal up until 2 days ago. Yesterday I noticed that they were starting to fight a little but today they were fighting a little more and the smaller of the two seems to be getting really stressed. He is squeezing himself between a rock and the tank wall and he just sits there (sometimes almost completely resting on the sand) He is also breathing faster than before but he still acts ok when I walk by the tank. (gets out of his spot and starts swimming around) This doesn't seem normal, what should I do? btw the parameters are fine. There are only a few small coral frags in the tank with them, no other fish. thanks.

codeh27 · 10-25-2009, 12:58 PM

He sounds stressed, you could pull them out rearrange the tank and re introduce them at the same time so there not fighting for territory

chipmunkofdoom2 · 10-25-2009, 01:17 PM

It is completely normal.

In the wild, the larger clown morphs from male to female when it asserts its dominance over the other clowns. They are trying to establish a social hierarchy.

cbrownfish · 10-25-2009, 10:28 PM

Based on your description, I would consider separating them at this point. You don't always get a good "match" and the smaller can die from the stress.

Woodstock · 10-26-2009, 06:46 AM

Never allow either to sustain damage or go without eating. Quarrelling is very normal but if it gets severe, you could put the dominant one in a breeder net (in the tank) for a few weeks. Release it later and try again. This 'tiime out' will allow the other to rest and eat.

If they are both juveniles, they will get along eventually. It is just a matter of time.

10-25-2009, 02:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
keithrett Tunicate Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 View Gallery Karma Komment	help with clown I just got small/medium small picasso clowns last week (thursday) and put them in my 20 gallon tank, both of them have been acting normal up until 2 days ago. Yesterday I noticed that they were starting to fight a little but today they were fighting a little more and the smaller of the two seems to be getting really stressed. He is squeezing himself between a rock and the tank wall and he just sits there (sometimes almost completely resting on the sand) He is also breathing faster than before but he still acts ok when I walk by the tank. (gets out of his spot and starts swimming around) This doesn't seem normal, what should I do? btw the parameters are fine. There are only a few small coral frags in the tank with them, no other fish. thanks.

10-25-2009, 12:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
codeh27 Tubeworm Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 31 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: help with clown He sounds stressed, you could pull them out rearrange the tank and re introduce them at the same time so there not fighting for territory __________________ 55g 3 Seabae Clownfish 1 Hoevans Wrasse 1 Ocellaris Clownfish 1 Coral Banded shrimp 1 Pom Pom Crab 1 Blue Damsel 3 hermit crabs 1 snail

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chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: help with clown It is completely normal. In the wild, the larger clown morphs from male to female when it asserts its dominance over the other clowns. They are trying to establish a social hierarchy. __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

10-25-2009, 10:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: help with clown Based on your description, I would consider separating them at this point. You don't always get a good "match" and the smaller can die from the stress. __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

10-26-2009, 06:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,502 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: help with clown Never allow either to sustain damage or go without eating. Quarrelling is very normal but if it gets severe, you could put the dominant one in a breeder net (in the tank) for a few weeks. Release it later and try again. This 'tiime out' will allow the other to rest and eat. If they are both juveniles, they will get along eventually. It is just a matter of time. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My Victorious Battle with ICH* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

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