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| Social Darwinism victim | So YELLOW tangs will school.... provided they have enough room and all... now what about a scopas and a hybrid? I have choices now.... The new 55 could be a temp QT tank... fill it with sand and some pieces of LR from another tank (the stuff in the 37 is not "done" yet - or even no LR) and hook up a canister filter with some recycled sponges or whatnot, got a couple powerheads, wala! a QT tank. He could stay in there permanently, hang about by himself until I'm comfortable and then I add MiniMoe.. although he could harass miniMoe.... OR he goes in the 75 with the scopas. What do y'all think? There's the 6 line, dimino damsel and scopas in the 75 now. I don't know if a "pair" of scopas will get along, I know multiple zebrasomas is bad except for the schooling yellows... edit: and FYI, this is after a while, I'm not plopping the hybrid in anywhere without QTing him, I learned my lesson.
__________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale... |
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| Tiger Shark | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... scopas will Hybrids I am not sure
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| Sea Pen | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... I am not sure about hybrid schooling. but I a say about your QT tank, I would recommend a QT tank to be free of LR and LS the reason behind is that in a QT tank you add all sorts of medication as needed. may that be copper or not which is not safe for reef and by the time you do that, your LS and LR will become dead due to the medication which is copper in the example given. JMO.
__________________ 1.20 G pico RR with 2 megaflow kits, aqua c EV180 with mag12, 2x250 DE 12k halides with 2x54 T5 actinic+, 30G phlenum fuge with chaeto, iwaki 55rlt return pump connected to a sea swirl, 4 tunze 6025 inside the main tank for water circulation (2 are modded) 3 Koralias PH(2 #4's and 1 #3) sps,lps,zoas,softies,pink tip BTA tangs - yellow, unicorn, blue hippo, palini and RS Purple Blue Spot Jaw Fish red lyretail anthias pair of spotted mandarin goby wrasse - yellow corris scribble rabbit fish Clown Fish -3 percula high fin shrimp goby clean up crew - various snails and crabs, red linkia star And a 30G AGA softies with clown & diamond head goby |
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| Star Polyps | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... How long has the scopas been in that tank? Scopas are some of the more passive tangs out there so the hybrid might be okay with him. Is the scopas much larger or smaller than the hybrid? I had that hybrid with my smaller scopas hybrid and they were getting along fine. As long as the new one isn't too much of a threat territory wise to your older tang they should be fine. Also, being more passive tangs, even if they don't get along they are not as likely to beat each other up as badly as other tangs. If they don't like each other just use my no-fail fish catching trick of turning the lights on 3-4 hrs after they go to sleep, works like a charm. For example I have a 2.75" half black mimic tang thats been in my tank since the summer. I introduced a slightly larger tomini tang into that tank in November. The mimic was territorial but not as physically brutal as my purple tang thats in my larger system. What is harder is introducing a new tang to a system that already has more than one tang because they will wail on the new guy. As a rule of thumb its always important to introduce the most aggressive tang last so the more passive guys have a chance. Or introduce 2 tangs at a time to a tank that has more than one established tang. This works for wrasses and other stuff as well. I've even gone as far as removing my purple tang to a smaller system in order to put in a new tang and then putting the purple back in the system a few weeks later. Of course you need multiple tanks in order to do this. ;p |
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| Social Darwinism victim | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Hi Morgan! Well, my options are open. The scopas has been in the 75g for a couple months now, he's a bit smaller than the hybrid but not too much. I'm thinkin' of the following scenarios: The hybrid is chillin' in the 55 for now with a juvie saddle clown and a chromis. he's the most aggressive thing in there. (I just bought him a buddha statue to hide in ) There's about 45 lbs of rock cycling right now in another tank, it was base rock and we put it in water and the trites are HIGH right now, has a ways to go yet. SO.... a serious reaquascaping is going to happen in the 75g. Probably in, say a month. When that happens I figure to add the hybrid then. I'll wait longer to scape/add the hybrid if nececssary, no rush.OR: add a yellow at the same time I add the hybrid. I'm not too sure about this one, but I've heard when they school it's good in threes or more. Problems: three tangs in a 75!!! all zebrasomas!!! The scopas is bigger than when I got him, but he's not growing as fast as I might have imagined so maybe 3 tangs would be OK for a while, until they got too big. Opinions, people?
__________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale... |
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| Reef Addict (hopeless) ![]() | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Or hold onto the Hybrid for a month or so and ship "Al" or "Alley" to Me ![]()
__________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend ![]() Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! ![]() Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!! |
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| Social Darwinism victim | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Hey Al... Ally says: ![]()
__________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale... |
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| Reef Addict (hopeless) ![]() | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... ![]()
__________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend ![]() Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! ![]() Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!! |
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| Reef Addict (hopeless) ![]() | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Quote:
now wouldn't a nice LARGE Reef Ball make an awesome place to hide and chill ![]()
__________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend ![]() Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! ![]() Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!! | |
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| Star Polyps | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Well unless you're going with a "theme" tank, you might think of branching out and putting a different type of tang with those two other than a yellow tang since the hybrid already looks a lot like a yellow tang. There's a very good chance that a yellow tang will fight with your hybrid unless it is smaller. Some other nice/passive tangs are the various mimic tangs (half black, eibli, lemon peel) tomini tang, red sea sailfin, chevron (if you can find/afford one), etc. I think the hybrid and scopas should be okay together since the new one is a little larger. Would make for a cool look too having a regular scopas and a yellow scopas in the same tank. Maybe they'll have babies! Jk I know this isn't possible. Not to tempt you but I did get in a pretty sweet half black mimic yesterday, I'll try to get pics soon. How long has the 75 been setup? Do you have it landscaped already? Also what kind of filtration do you have? One benefit is all of these tangs love algae and your tank will sparkle. ;] My tangs really buddy around together once they get used to each other. Just my purple tang is a pita, but that's my husband's fish. |
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| Reef Addict (hopeless) ![]() | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... *pouts*
__________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend ![]() Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! ![]() Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!! |
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| Social Darwinism victim | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Poor Al... no fishies yet. Fishies will come, Al.Morgan, I like the way you think!! Got to take it slow for a while though, let Lil' Ally settle in and all. Now I like the kole eyeds too, they are neat. The 75's been up since October, but was set up using pre-existing tanks that had been up from May last year and the summer. So it's pretty new really still. I've got a fuge which has been the best thing for the tank I think, it's generally pristine. There is a touch of diatoms on the sand but they're gone quick after a water change and I need to get more macro algae in the fuge, I've been feeding some of it to the scopas and he's quite thrilled about it. There's a couple #2 koralias, I'm still running the aqua c remora (yeah, just haven't gotten around to upgrading it, it is working pretty well actually) adn I've got a sunpod, with two 150W 14K HQI.
__________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale... |
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| Star Polyps | Re: So YELLOW tangs will school.... Taking it slow is always the best way to go! ;] Then I would probably stick with the two of them for awhile until things are more settled in. You should be able to add a different tang later on without too much trouble since those guys aren't that aggressive. You might look into running some phosban or a skimmer when you start to carry a larger bioload. Since scopas are big algae eaters and you have a fuge you'll probably be fine for now. |
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