Anemone and clownfish Dilemma

Doodle man · 01-21-2008, 08:11 AM

i m new here and have a question for my 30 gallon tank that currently has live rock, 3 small hermit crabs, an emerald mithrax crab, and a large coral beauty angelfish. i wanted to add a kindof small maroon gold stripped clownfish with a green bubble tip anemone and was wondering if i could get some feedback. And i realize that the clown is aggresive but at the dealers stroe he is in with other fish and he just inds his own buisiness.

blue_eyes53813 · 01-21-2008, 08:29 AM

What kind of lighting do you have for the anemone? How old is the tank? In that small of a tank the anemone may move and sting other corals. And Yes the clown will be aggresive. They can get farelly big and in time may have to be removed.

Anemones need a well established tank of at least 6 months old and strong lighting. IF it would happen to die it could polute the water in a short time.

Doodle man · 01-21-2008, 09:18 AM

The tank has been established for at least six months i do have a high intensity light i just took it off because i don't have any corals as of now because i haven't started them yet and the clownfish is in a tank with at least one dwarf angelfish and he just hides and i can tell he/she is matured because it has bold gold stripes already and i am willing to take the risk

Doodle man · 01-21-2008, 09:21 AM

oh yeah my lighting that is off right now is 2x96 watts which i beleive is powerful enough

panmanmatt · 01-21-2008, 09:24 AM

2x96w power compacts? That isn't enough light to sustain an anemone long term. For an anemone you really should have metal halides or at the very least a 6 bulb T5 fixture.

lcstorc · 01-21-2008, 09:31 AM

I agree with both Vicki and Matt.
I will also add that a maroon will outgrow that tank in a very short time. I have one that is approx 4 inches. I'h had her about 3 years.

Doodle man · 01-21-2008, 09:38 AM

okay but i had a condy anemone for at least 8 months and it was doing excelent until i got the higher intensity bulb and at the fish store he has had the anemone in the tank for at least six weeks now and he it has been very healthy looking with a tight mouth and ithas been attatched to the same peice of live rock and he just has an average flourescent bulb
and if the clownfish does grow too large i think i may sell it but i doubt it will get large soon since it is only about an inch or lessno offense i willl take your advice but i am new to marron clownfish and please give your advice i will use it

lcstorc · 01-21-2008, 09:43 AM

I find condys easiest to keep in lower lighting. But they rarely host and they get very very large. Also keep in mind that an anemone's metabolism is very slow. It can take some time before an anemone succumbs to the stress.
Your best bet is to get T5 lighting. That should be good for a BTA.
MH would be better but then you have to resolve heat issues.

Doodle man · 01-21-2008, 09:50 AM

ok thanks please keep the advice coming this has already helped me and i am kind of obligated to get these things (clownfish anemone) because the storeowner ordered them just for me and won't let anyone else buy them so i will keep you guys updated but keep posting more info because each bit helps and i will post picturesan maybe that will help you tell me if it is truly health or not oh yeah and i beleive that the tank has been established 9 months because i got a saltwater 10 gallon started march of last year and put all of that water and stuff in the ne tank and also if you have answers for my algae probelm please tell me

Jova · 01-30-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lcstorc

I find condys easiest to keep in lower lighting. But they rarely host and they get very very large.

I agree, I've had condy's several times in the past with no luck with them hosting, but I currently have a large condy hosting 2 percs, which latched onto it immediately after I put it in the tank, so it DOES happen if you're lucky

As far as lighting, I'm running a 4x65w power compact lighting fixture, and the anemone seems to be fine right now, although it does have days to where it doesn't look so healthy, could be the lighting. So yeah, if I were to do it all over again, I'd get a more powerful light, but you might do alright with the one you have. Everyone seems to have different results. Good luck!

Reef Goddess · 01-30-2008, 01:32 AM

A better solution if you're so dead set on the clownfish, is to get a frogspawn or similar coral that the clown will most likely host instead of getting an anemone. Even condi anemones come from high light areas, just because they can take low light for a long time doesn't mean that is what's best for them.

I understand as a beginner it is tough to hear advice against what you want, I have been there. lol But you need to trust that what we are telling you isn't tough love, just the truth. Maroon clowns, like tomato clowns are very cute and innocent looking when they're little, but they usually grow into mean, territorial, not so pretty fish that will happily take a piece out of you or anyone that wanders into their territory.
I don't know if you can get them, but black/white saddleback/sebae clowns are very passive and would do better in your size tank. Even a false or true perc would be better.

And remember, when it comes to anemones bright white or bright yellow (lol) is not a healthy color.

01-21-2008, 08:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Doodle man Tunicate Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	Anemone and clownfish Dilemma i m new here and have a question for my 30 gallon tank that currently has live rock, 3 small hermit crabs, an emerald mithrax crab, and a large coral beauty angelfish. i wanted to add a kindof small maroon gold stripped clownfish with a green bubble tip anemone and was wondering if i could get some feedback. And i realize that the clown is aggresive but at the dealers stroe he is in with other fish and he just inds his own buisiness.

01-21-2008, 08:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,349 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma What kind of lighting do you have for the anemone? How old is the tank? In that small of a tank the anemone may move and sting other corals. And Yes the clown will be aggresive. They can get farelly big and in time may have to be removed. Anemones need a well established tank of at least 6 months old and strong lighting. IF it would happen to die it could polute the water in a short time. __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

01-21-2008, 09:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Doodle man Tunicate Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma The tank has been established for at least six months i do have a high intensity light i just took it off because i don't have any corals as of now because i haven't started them yet and the clownfish is in a tank with at least one dwarf angelfish and he just hides and i can tell he/she is matured because it has bold gold stripes already and i am willing to take the risk

01-21-2008, 09:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Doodle man Tunicate Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma oh yeah my lighting that is off right now is 2x96 watts which i beleive is powerful enough

01-21-2008, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,949 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma 2x96w power compacts? That isn't enough light to sustain an anemone long term. For an anemone you really should have metal halides or at the very least a 6 bulb T5 fixture. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-21-2008, 09:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,892 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma I agree with both Vicki and Matt. I will also add that a maroon will outgrow that tank in a very short time. I have one that is approx 4 inches. I'h had her about 3 years. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-21-2008, 09:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
Doodle man Tunicate Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma okay but i had a condy anemone for at least 8 months and it was doing excelent until i got the higher intensity bulb and at the fish store he has had the anemone in the tank for at least six weeks now and he it has been very healthy looking with a tight mouth and ithas been attatched to the same peice of live rock and he just has an average flourescent bulb and if the clownfish does grow too large i think i may sell it but i doubt it will get large soon since it is only about an inch or lessno offense i willl take your advice but i am new to marron clownfish and please give your advice i will use it

01-21-2008, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,892 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma I find condys easiest to keep in lower lighting. But they rarely host and they get very very large. Also keep in mind that an anemone's metabolism is very slow. It can take some time before an anemone succumbs to the stress. Your best bet is to get T5 lighting. That should be good for a BTA. MH would be better but then you have to resolve heat issues. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-21-2008, 09:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Doodle man Tunicate Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma ok thanks please keep the advice coming this has already helped me and i am kind of obligated to get these things (clownfish anemone) because the storeowner ordered them just for me and won't let anyone else buy them so i will keep you guys updated but keep posting more info because each bit helps and i will post picturesan maybe that will help you tell me if it is truly health or not oh yeah and i beleive that the tank has been established 9 months because i got a saltwater 10 gallon started march of last year and put all of that water and stuff in the ne tank and also if you have answers for my algae probelm please tell me

01-30-2008, 01:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
Reef Goddess Star Polyps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 169 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Anemone and clownfish Dilemma A better solution if you're so dead set on the clownfish, is to get a frogspawn or similar coral that the clown will most likely host instead of getting an anemone. Even condi anemones come from high light areas, just because they can take low light for a long time doesn't mean that is what's best for them. I understand as a beginner it is tough to hear advice against what you want, I have been there. lol But you need to trust that what we are telling you isn't tough love, just the truth. Maroon clowns, like tomato clowns are very cute and innocent looking when they're little, but they usually grow into mean, territorial, not so pretty fish that will happily take a piece out of you or anyone that wanders into their territory. I don't know if you can get them, but black/white saddleback/sebae clowns are very passive and would do better in your size tank. Even a false or true perc would be better. And remember, when it comes to anemones bright white or bright yellow (lol) is not a healthy color. __________________ REEFGARDENER.NET The only place you ever need to visit!!

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