Reef Fish and HLLE

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:04 AM

Hey, Folks-

I got a call from the manager of our local petco about 5 months ago saying that someone who was breaking down an aquarium brought in an angel who was suffering from very advanced head erosion, did I want it? I expressed doubt because I knew this angel wouldn't be compatable with my reef but I went to take a look anyway. Iwas soooo dismayed by the condition of this fish that I said I would take it!

I brought it home, put it in the 80 gallon 'fuge and snapped a few pics. The head erosion was so advanced that the flesh was raw and ulcerated in some areas and I doubted that the angel would make it. To make matters worse it didn't begin to feed for almost a week, no matter what food I tried.

Then he settled in and began feeding and the healing began, fast!

I feed him a diet of my home made food consisting of raw shrimp, squid, mussel, clam, and octopus, blended with selco and frozen flat in a gallon ziplock bag. He also eats any kind of macros and seaweed selects (purple and green).

The head erosion is still there 5 months later but slowly healing. I wanted to share my success and ask for any other tips or success stories that anyone else wants to share.

Now the "crypt keeper"koran resides in my 125 propagation tank and luckily doesn't bother anything. He seems very happy and isn't at all shy.

Here's a pic when I first brought him home.

SaltyQueen · 11-23-2003, 02:06 AM

nice work- it'd be interesting to see a pic of him now- kind a "before & after" type thing

Dennis7 · 11-23-2003, 02:10 AM

Reefshadow,
I remember your post on RAG. Please post a updated picture of the improvement.
Great job on saving the fish.

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:11 AM

here's an after pic taken yesterday.

Dennis7 · 11-23-2003, 02:17 AM

Fantastic! Major improvement.

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:26 AM

I've also had great success with tangs and rabbitfish with hlle. here's some pics of a purple tang who was stuck in an agressive petco tank w/ eels and triggers for months, I talked the manager down to 25 dollars!

The first pics were taken two weeks after bringing him home and the erosion was already starting to resolve.

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:28 AM

left side

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:31 AM

sharks · 11-23-2003, 02:41 AM

WOW an old thread renewed.
I remember this fish

How are things? Can you post the most recent pic? Like I said only time can heals a wound so deep. And even then he/she may be scarred for life.
Keep up the good work :thumbups:
S

^EDIT^
Referring to the Koran :-)

Craig Manoukian · 11-23-2003, 02:45 AM

You get Karma for being such a great conservationist with a big heart RS!

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:53 AM

yeah, the most recent pic of the koran is the second one. the healing had slowed down, but it could be in part because the 125 tank he's now in is only 3 months old, the nitrates are just now starting to approach <10ppm, from >80. It seems to be speeding up again now.

I hope he turns out as nice as my tang did, but it was so severe I wouldn't be suprised if some scarring is left forever.

I guess the moral of my thread is no matter how severe this problem seems it can be resolved, so if you can get a bargain hlle fish, go for it!

I would love to hear experiences or see before/after pics from others who have had success with this problem. Any tips/pointers? Would also be interested in anyones views on how this starts and the best way to resolve it. In my experience it starts with poor water quality and diet, and is resolved by providing just the opposite. Interestingly enough, neither of my tanks have a grounding probe, though i've heard that stray voltage can be a factor. (Don't think so myself).

Also, can anyone tell me how to post multiple pics in the same post? lol.

seeya! Becca

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 02:57 AM

Thanks, Craig! awwwww. My first karma! whooo hooo!

Dennis7 · 11-23-2003, 03:06 AM

Let me give you your second Karma. You are doing an amazing job.

reefshadow · 11-23-2003, 04:04 AM

You guys are sweet. Back at ya.

wooddood · 11-23-2003, 04:38 AM

good job.

11-23-2003, 02:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dennis7 Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 190 View Gallery Karma Komment	Reefshadow, I remember your post on RAG. Please post a updated picture of the improvement. Great job on saving the fish. __________________ Dennis 120 gal/tank, custom overflow in center, closed-loop on a Squid, custom sump,Reef Concepts skimmer, CA reactor, Refugium gravity feed into tank, Lighting: 2 - 250 watt MH's, 4- 55 watt PC's, and 110 watt VHO. 12 gal NanoCube, with 2-32 watt PC's and a 13 watt PC, in a custom hood.

11-23-2003, 02:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dennis7 Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 190 View Gallery Karma Komment	Fantastic! Major improvement. __________________ Dennis 120 gal/tank, custom overflow in center, closed-loop on a Squid, custom sump,Reef Concepts skimmer, CA reactor, Refugium gravity feed into tank, Lighting: 2 - 250 watt MH's, 4- 55 watt PC's, and 110 watt VHO. 12 gal NanoCube, with 2-32 watt PC's and a 13 watt PC, in a custom hood.

11-23-2003, 02:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
sharks Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 843 View Gallery Karma Komment	WOW an old thread renewed. I remember this fish How are things? Can you post the most recent pic? Like I said only time can heals a wound so deep. And even then he/she may be scarred for life. Keep up the good work :thumbups: S ^EDIT^ Referring to the Koran :-) __________________ The sea monkey has my money 220G fish only tank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120G Reef 2 250W 65K MH’s. 2 VHO Actinics LifeReef filter/skimmer/20G REF 200LB Kaelini Rock . 2-3” DSB. Various, LPS, SPS, clams, leathers, and others Numerous fish ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> View my Photo Gallery><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>

11-23-2003, 02:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 15,724 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	You get Karma for being such a great conservationist with a big heart RS! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

11-23-2003, 02:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
reefshadow Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: washington Posts: 196 View Gallery Karma Komment	yeah, the most recent pic of the koran is the second one. the healing had slowed down, but it could be in part because the 125 tank he's now in is only 3 months old, the nitrates are just now starting to approach <10ppm, from >80. It seems to be speeding up again now. I hope he turns out as nice as my tang did, but it was so severe I wouldn't be suprised if some scarring is left forever. I guess the moral of my thread is no matter how severe this problem seems it can be resolved, so if you can get a bargain hlle fish, go for it! I would love to hear experiences or see before/after pics from others who have had success with this problem. Any tips/pointers? Would also be interested in anyones views on how this starts and the best way to resolve it. In my experience it starts with poor water quality and diet, and is resolved by providing just the opposite. Interestingly enough, neither of my tanks have a grounding probe, though i've heard that stray voltage can be a factor. (Don't think so myself). Also, can anyone tell me how to post multiple pics in the same post? lol. seeya! Becca __________________ 240 gallon glass mixed reef 2x 250 watt m.h., 2x 175 watt m.h., 3x 110 watt vho's. 55 gallon propagation tank, 2x 96 watt pc's Empty 125 gallon tank reefer girrrl!

11-23-2003, 02:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
SaltyQueen Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 400 View Gallery Karma Komment	nice work- it'd be interesting to see a pic of him now- kind a "before & after" type thing

11-23-2003, 02:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
reefshadow Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: washington Posts: 196 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks, Craig! awwwww. My first karma! whooo hooo! __________________ 240 gallon glass mixed reef 2x 250 watt m.h., 2x 175 watt m.h., 3x 110 watt vho's. 55 gallon propagation tank, 2x 96 watt pc's Empty 125 gallon tank reefer girrrl!

11-23-2003, 03:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dennis7 Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 190 View Gallery Karma Komment	Let me give you your second Karma. You are doing an amazing job. __________________ Dennis 120 gal/tank, custom overflow in center, closed-loop on a Squid, custom sump,Reef Concepts skimmer, CA reactor, Refugium gravity feed into tank, Lighting: 2 - 250 watt MH's, 4- 55 watt PC's, and 110 watt VHO. 12 gal NanoCube, with 2-32 watt PC's and a 13 watt PC, in a custom hood.

11-23-2003, 04:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
reefshadow Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: washington Posts: 196 View Gallery Karma Komment	You guys are sweet. Back at ya. __________________ 240 gallon glass mixed reef 2x 250 watt m.h., 2x 175 watt m.h., 3x 110 watt vho's. 55 gallon propagation tank, 2x 96 watt pc's Empty 125 gallon tank reefer girrrl!

11-23-2003, 04:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	good job. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

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