Bloated Nasa Tang - Page 2

Dentoid · 05-20-2007, 08:59 PM

Maybe it was a gas bubble in his swim bladder.

Frankie · 05-20-2007, 09:30 PM

Glad your home safe Lorraine and everyones ok.
Whats a "Hans Duo"? LOL maybe i don't want to know!

vdituri · 05-20-2007, 10:06 PM

Sounds like fun. Drinking and watching fish poop. Shouldn't save that for a lively Friday night?

bluespotjawfish · 05-20-2007, 10:32 PM

Hehe! I have been at dog shows all weekend, so fish poop is way better than all the dog poop! I did a 20% WC tonight and decided to keep the salinity where it is. He is eating good still, but no poop. My dog made it nearly 3 days before she decided to poop for me, so I don't plan to sit and drink that much!

Woodstock · 05-20-2007, 11:24 PM

Welcome home lorraine. I'm glad your babies are doing well

lcstorc · 05-21-2007, 08:07 AM

Welcome home. Glad the tang looks better.

bluespotjawfish · 05-21-2007, 08:55 AM

Thanks

I don't think he is out of the woods yet, but at least it is better and not worse. I really didn't think he would make it through the weekend.

NaH2O · 05-22-2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentoid

Maybe it was a gas bubble in his swim bladder.

If it was a problem with his swim bladder, the fish would have abnormal swimming postures. Usually, they can't "right" themselves, and sometimes you'll find them wedging into rocks.

bluespotjawfish - have you seen the fish poop yet? How is the abdomen looking? Just for reference, here is some info for you: Internal infections. You might also think about getting a dewormer, in case worms are the problem. As examples, Prazi-pro is a praziquantel product that you can buy, and Ultra Cure PX contains praziquantel and metronidazole, too.

bluespotjawfish · 05-24-2007, 08:39 AM

Still haven't seen him poop (doesn't mean he isn't).

No abnormal swimming at all.

My lfs where I got him from treats there fish with Prazi-pro. So, he was treated with that before I brought him home.

The swelling has gone down a lot (maybe to the point of normal?). Seems more active, less just hanging out. His eating behavior to me is still not quite right. He goes towards food, sometimes takes it, sometimes doesn't. Which, for a new fish, doesn't bother me, but he NEVER takes nori, or other veggie based foods. Odd for a tang I believe.

Currently I am treating the tank with Melafix. A very mild treatment for bacterial infections, etc. Once my 30 gallon tank is available (tomorrow or Saturday), I can move him there and treat him with something stronger. I'm still puzzled as to what I should treat him with though. Last time I treated my tank with Maracyn 2, I killed all my fishies. I'm scared!

lcstorc · 05-24-2007, 08:48 AM

If he seems to be improving almost to the point of normal, I would continue doing what you are doing. I wouldn't move the fish since that alone can stress him out.
It is odd that he won't eat the nori. Have you tried rubberbanding it to a rock? It is a bit more like his natural food that way. Worth a shot anyway.

bluespotjawfish · 05-28-2007, 09:14 AM

Thanks for the idea Lynn, I'll give the rock a try. I have him and my Bluespot (who isn't eating either) isolated in the 30. The bloating is gone and both are acting fairly normal, but neither one of them is eating. Still haven't treated with anything 'cause I'm not sure what to treat with. Just doing large WC's everyday.

Frankie · 05-28-2007, 09:26 AM

Won't eat the nori? thats odd. Where did you get it from? It's not toasted is it?
Have you tried to let it snow in the tank with mysis shrimp? The rock idea is a good one Lynn. It may seem more natural that way for the tang.
Just keep changing the nori out every day. When the tangs ready to eat he will.
You said you are doing large water changes every day. Be careful you don't send the tank into a cycle. Better to do small everyday.

DrHank · 05-28-2007, 09:52 AM

You may want to try soaking some nori in Selcon. I't can't hurt and might help if there's a partial bowel obstruction. If his condition seems to have improved, I'd probably leave the salinity right where it is (not go up or down) and continue to observe.

DrHank · 05-28-2007, 10:43 AM

You might also want to try some fresh red graciallia or ulva if you can get a hold of some. When I put either in the tank my purple goes after it like candy.

bluespotjawfish · 05-28-2007, 11:30 AM

I have ulva and feather calurpa in the fuge. I know my other tangs always preferred the red stuff over these when they had a choice.

05-20-2007, 08:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,240 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Maybe it was a gas bubble in his swim bladder. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

05-20-2007, 09:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,132 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Glad your home safe Lorraine and everyones ok. Whats a "Hans Duo"? LOL maybe i don't want to know! __________________ Click here to visit my thread: New Horizons Text Is a Poor Form Of Communication! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

05-20-2007, 10:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,730 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Sounds like fun. Drinking and watching fish poop. Shouldn't save that for a lively Friday night? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

05-20-2007, 10:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Hehe! I have been at dog shows all weekend, so fish poop is way better than all the dog poop! I did a 20% WC tonight and decided to keep the salinity where it is. He is eating good still, but no poop. My dog made it nearly 3 days before she decided to poop for me, so I don't plan to sit and drink that much! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

05-20-2007, 11:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
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05-21-2007, 08:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Welcome home. Glad the tang looks better. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-21-2007, 08:55 AM	#22 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Thanks I don't think he is out of the woods yet, but at least it is better and not worse. I really didn't think he would make it through the weekend. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

05-24-2007, 08:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Still haven't seen him poop (doesn't mean he isn't). No abnormal swimming at all. My lfs where I got him from treats there fish with Prazi-pro. So, he was treated with that before I brought him home. The swelling has gone down a lot (maybe to the point of normal?). Seems more active, less just hanging out. His eating behavior to me is still not quite right. He goes towards food, sometimes takes it, sometimes doesn't. Which, for a new fish, doesn't bother me, but he NEVER takes nori, or other veggie based foods. Odd for a tang I believe. Currently I am treating the tank with Melafix. A very mild treatment for bacterial infections, etc. Once my 30 gallon tank is available (tomorrow or Saturday), I can move him there and treat him with something stronger. I'm still puzzled as to what I should treat him with though. Last time I treated my tank with Maracyn 2, I killed all my fishies. I'm scared! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

05-24-2007, 08:48 AM	#25 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang If he seems to be improving almost to the point of normal, I would continue doing what you are doing. I wouldn't move the fish since that alone can stress him out. It is odd that he won't eat the nori. Have you tried rubberbanding it to a rock? It is a bit more like his natural food that way. Worth a shot anyway. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-28-2007, 09:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Thanks for the idea Lynn, I'll give the rock a try. I have him and my Bluespot (who isn't eating either) isolated in the 30. The bloating is gone and both are acting fairly normal, but neither one of them is eating. Still haven't treated with anything 'cause I'm not sure what to treat with. Just doing large WC's everyday. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

05-28-2007, 09:26 AM	#27 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,132 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang Won't eat the nori? thats odd. Where did you get it from? It's not toasted is it? Have you tried to let it snow in the tank with mysis shrimp? The rock idea is a good one Lynn. It may seem more natural that way for the tang. Just keep changing the nori out every day. When the tangs ready to eat he will. You said you are doing large water changes every day. Be careful you don't send the tank into a cycle. Better to do small everyday. __________________ Click here to visit my thread: New Horizons Text Is a Poor Form Of Communication! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

05-28-2007, 09:52 AM	#28 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,284 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang You may want to try soaking some nori in Selcon. I't can't hurt and might help if there's a partial bowel obstruction. If his condition seems to have improved, I'd probably leave the salinity right where it is (not go up or down) and continue to observe. __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

05-28-2007, 10:43 AM	#29 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,284 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang You might also want to try some fresh red graciallia or ulva if you can get a hold of some. When I put either in the tank my purple goes after it like candy. __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

05-28-2007, 11:30 AM	#30 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,222 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bloated Nasa Tang I have ulva and feather calurpa in the fuge. I know my other tangs always preferred the red stuff over these when they had a choice. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

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