Yellow Tang not looking good

Snelly40 · 05-11-2007, 10:27 AM

All of a sudden, like yesterday, my yellow tang started not looking good. I will try to get a pic if he makes it till tongiht.
I wasnt too worried wednesday cuz he was still full of energy and eating, but last night he looked worse and food did not even interest him. He was swimming/floating aimlesly and this morning he was laying on the sand bed, i thought he was dead went to scoop him and he swam off, but im very worried.

No signs of ick, but he does have Red lines on him, they look like his veins popping through and the red is very pronounced where his spine it, up under the dorsal fin.

This sound like anything, ive never heard of red veins, but im very worried

Wooden Harpoon · 05-11-2007, 10:34 AM

I am sorry to hear about your fish. Hopefully he perks up. You may want to contact the fish doc. = Fishdoc.co.uk ~ I am not sure if he's any good. But, he did have some responses to the symptoms you described. Good Luck!

lcstorc · 05-11-2007, 11:24 AM

Unfortunately fishdoc seems to be all freshwater fish. Cool site though.
I wish I could help, but this one is new to me. Hope the tang recovers.

Snelly40 · 05-11-2007, 11:29 AM

its new to me too, ive never come accros anything likeit at all

Wooden Harpoon · 05-11-2007, 11:33 AM

Sorry about the fish doc refrence.

lcstorc · 05-11-2007, 11:38 AM

Don't be sorry. It is actually a cool reference site. I read quite a bit that I didn't know and I only skimmed through part of it.

BoomerD · 05-11-2007, 11:44 AM

Took me a bit to find it, but...

Yellow Tangs - Zebrasoma Flavescens

"Opportunistic bacteria will readily reproduced in this food rich environment. As the numbers of bacteria in the water multiply, so does the likelihood of microbial infection. Be on the alert for red or pinkish streaks and faded colors that can indicate a bacterial infection (most often vibriosis). "

cheeks69 · 05-11-2007, 02:55 PM

Have you done any tests ? How are the nitrate levels ? From what I remember you were using an ASM skimmer, has it been working well ? How often are you doing water changes ? Have you noticed any cloudiness in the tank or is it crystal clear ? When I read your PM I was thinking dietary but reading Terry's article if may be water quality issues.

Snelly40 · 05-11-2007, 04:34 PM

water quality is great and clarity is better than it has ever been. i rechecked water params when i noticed him in this condition and:
ph:8.2
ammonia nitrites and trates and phosphates all 0

i was just at my LFS buying ro water and was talking and one of the guys, mentioned a Fluke that can cause reactions like this. He gave me a medication to dose 5 gallons with as a last ditch effort if the tang is still alive when i get home

Dentoid · 05-11-2007, 09:02 PM

That stinks Snelly! I hope your tang pulls through. Karma to you my friend!

Snelly40 · 05-12-2007, 09:47 AM

thanks dentoid, its been a tough few days!!!

so i get home last night and yellow tang looked great, no signs of sickness. I kept the medication that the lfs guy gave me in case it looks bad again, but he started eating again last ngiht and looked good, thanks the fish gods

lcstorc · 05-12-2007, 09:49 AM

Glad to hear he is doing well.
What a mystery. Hopefully whatever was wrong doesn't come back, but at least you have the medicine to try if it does.

Frankie · 05-12-2007, 11:11 AM

Great article BoomerD. Thanks!

iamkellogg · 05-16-2007, 02:04 AM

Glad he pulled through.

Kelly

Jova · 05-16-2007, 03:24 AM

Good to hear that your fish is doing well! You have much better luck than I do... Usually a sick fish means a "soon to be dead fish" for me

05-11-2007, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,446 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yellow Tang not looking good All of a sudden, like yesterday, my yellow tang started not looking good. I will try to get a pic if he makes it till tongiht. I wasnt too worried wednesday cuz he was still full of energy and eating, but last night he looked worse and food did not even interest him. He was swimming/floating aimlesly and this morning he was laying on the sand bed, i thought he was dead went to scoop him and he swam off, but im very worried. No signs of ick, but he does have Red lines on him, they look like his veins popping through and the red is very pronounced where his spine it, up under the dorsal fin. This sound like anything, ive never heard of red veins, but im very worried __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

05-11-2007, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wooden Harpoon Star Polyps Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 171 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good I am sorry to hear about your fish. Hopefully he perks up. You may want to contact the fish doc. = Fishdoc.co.uk ~ I am not sure if he's any good. But, he did have some responses to the symptoms you described. Good Luck! __________________ The more I see the less I know! Back and more humbled about the world of reef keeping.

05-11-2007, 11:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,469 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Unfortunately fishdoc seems to be all freshwater fish. Cool site though. I wish I could help, but this one is new to me. Hope the tang recovers. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

05-11-2007, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,446 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good its new to me too, ive never come accros anything likeit at all __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

05-11-2007, 11:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wooden Harpoon Star Polyps Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 171 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Sorry about the fish doc refrence. __________________ The more I see the less I know! Back and more humbled about the world of reef keeping.

05-11-2007, 11:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,469 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Don't be sorry. It is actually a cool reference site. I read quite a bit that I didn't know and I only skimmed through part of it. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

05-11-2007, 11:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,632 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Took me a bit to find it, but... Yellow Tangs - Zebrasoma Flavescens "Opportunistic bacteria will readily reproduced in this food rich environment. As the numbers of bacteria in the water multiply, so does the likelihood of microbial infection. Be on the alert for red or pinkish streaks and faded colors that can indicate a bacterial infection (most often vibriosis). " __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

05-11-2007, 02:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Have you done any tests ? How are the nitrate levels ? From what I remember you were using an ASM skimmer, has it been working well ? How often are you doing water changes ? Have you noticed any cloudiness in the tank or is it crystal clear ? When I read your PM I was thinking dietary but reading Terry's article if may be water quality issues. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

05-11-2007, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,446 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good water quality is great and clarity is better than it has ever been. i rechecked water params when i noticed him in this condition and: ph:8.2 ammonia nitrites and trates and phosphates all 0 i was just at my LFS buying ro water and was talking and one of the guys, mentioned a Fluke that can cause reactions like this. He gave me a medication to dose 5 gallons with as a last ditch effort if the tang is still alive when i get home __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

05-11-2007, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good That stinks Snelly! I hope your tang pulls through. Karma to you my friend! __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

05-12-2007, 09:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,446 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good thanks dentoid, its been a tough few days!!! so i get home last night and yellow tang looked great, no signs of sickness. I kept the medication that the lfs guy gave me in case it looks bad again, but he started eating again last ngiht and looked good, thanks the fish gods __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

05-12-2007, 09:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,469 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Glad to hear he is doing well. What a mystery. Hopefully whatever was wrong doesn't come back, but at least you have the medicine to try if it does. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

05-12-2007, 11:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 7,120 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Great article BoomerD. Thanks! __________________ Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

05-16-2007, 02:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
iamkellogg Star Polyps Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Owensville, IN Posts: 174 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Glad he pulled through. Kelly __________________ 44 gallon Hex tank. 4 inch sand bed, 50 pounds live rock, orbit 24 hour light system, Seaclone Protein Skimmer. HOB Magnum Filter, 2 False Perculas. I also have a 29 gallon FO tank with an O clown. A 15 Gallon shrimp tank. A 29 gallon FW Angel tank. A 75 Gallon Oscar tank and a 10 gallon frog tank.

05-16-2007, 03:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jova Bryozoan Join Date: May 2007 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 45 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Yellow Tang not looking good Good to hear that your fish is doing well! You have much better luck than I do... Usually a sick fish means a "soon to be dead fish" for me __________________ 55 gallon reef tank. 100 lbs of Fiji live rock, 6" live sand bed, 1 pink haitian/condylactis anemone hosting 2 percula clowns, 2 green chomis', 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 neon goby, 1 firefish, 15 blue legged hermit crabs, 1 brittle starfish, 2 mexican turbo snails, 4 other snails, much more to come! Equipment includes a Coralife power compact setup with 2 65w 8k bulbs and 2 65w actinics, a CPR backpak and a wavemaker powerstrip running 3 powerheads. Rock on!

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