Does any one know what this is? (pic included)

beachbabies · 11-04-2009, 07:03 AM

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/a...g/IMG_0262.jpg

I found this and can't find anyone that has ever seen anything like it before. it's red and orange, but i have also seen it in peach and grey. It's fleshy, like the inside of a grape. i found it at a peir, in VERY calm, VERY dirty water, close to the surface. Water temp is in the mid 70's.
it's definately not a spounge. it's soft , w/ no skeleton. it was very easy to scrape off. It seems to be doing ok now, I colected it on Friday and mounted it on Monday. The peice that I found was growing on a clump of seaweed. when I started trimming it worms started pouring out (of the seaweed) I'm pretty sure I got them all off. does anyone thow what this is?

beachbabies · 11-04-2009, 07:11 AM

Oh my God World!!!!!! Be proud of me! This is the first time I have sucessfuly added a pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am soooooooooooooooo awesome! it may seem like nothing to you, but thiat pic right there, that I just posted took me hours to figure out! HOURS! And I did it all by my self! I took the pic, I downloaded the pic, i uploaded the pic, I posted the pic! ME! If you all actually knew me, you would all be in disbelief! TA DA! I think I'm gonna go have me a cookie!

beachbabies · 11-04-2009, 07:15 AM

(imagine confetti falling and someone blowing a party blower)

Woodstock · 11-04-2009, 07:24 AM

LOL! Way to go

It appears to be an egg mass?

(moving to ID section)

lcstorc · 11-04-2009, 10:05 AM

Awesome colors. Glad you had success with the pic.
I'ld have to go with Doni on this one. Looks like some cool eggs of some sort. Hopefully the critters that hatch are as cool as the eggs.
Did you put this in your DT or in a QT or frag tank?

BigAl07 · 11-04-2009, 10:10 AM

VERY cool!

Congrats on successful pic uploading

I have to "3rd" the notion for some type of eggs.

PLEASE say this is in an isolated tank. Be very careful about harvesting things and adding them to a display tank. Keep in mind that many of our "available" animals in the trade are from all over the world and may or may NOT be able to handle local inhabitants.

tektite · 11-04-2009, 11:43 AM

It looks a little more like colonial tunicates to me. I had some in my tank that were similar looking. Take a look at the pictures at the very bottom of this page, they look very close to your picture.

Boomer · 11-04-2009, 01:34 PM

Tek has it correct, they are colonial Styleid botrylloide tunicates

They are Botryllus sp, like Botryllus letpus or Botryllus leachii ( what I think yours are)

Botryllus Their Biology

Botryllus leachii

Botryllus letpus

others

beachbabies · 11-04-2009, 03:40 PM

Thanks so much tek and boomer! Now the big ? is, is it ok to keep in my tank, or should I pull it out?

tektite · 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Tunicates are harmless filter feeders, they're fine to keep. Most reef tanks are run too "clean" for them though, and they'll not survive long w/o enough food.

beachbabies · 11-04-2009, 05:49 PM

should I use supplements? They might do well in my seahorse tank, it's plenty dirty in there! but that would mean that I would have to run lights on the tank, I'm loving it w/ no light, there's no algea!
BTW, awesome job on the ID, I've asked divers and LFS, and even the aquarium about this, and no one has ever seen or heard of anything like it!

tektite · 11-04-2009, 06:23 PM

Tunicates are non-photosynthetic, don't need lights. Beyond that, I really don't know specifics on feeding them.

Thanks! I read up on them when I first joined RS and 'tunicate' was the title under my name. Interesting little things.

Boomer · 11-05-2009, 12:15 AM

Some Tunicates are photosynthetic and contain Blue-Green Algae, Cyanobacteria but not these. The only real sup you need to worry about is Vanadium, which is a blood group, Vanadocytes, for many of them.

You should try to target feed them with a syringe, using live phytoplankton or powdered or dry phytoplankton, creating a cloud above them and allowing it to settle on them. DO NOT try to blast them or they will just close up

beachbabies · 11-05-2009, 07:08 PM

can i use powdered spirulina? I have a brine enrichment that I mix, I use spirulina, algeamac, and naturose in T. iso. is that ok? I can start a culture, I've been wanting to fo a while now, but it'll take atleast 2 weeks until it'll be ready.
If it doesn't need light, I could put it in my dwarf seahorse tank. the extra phyto would help supplement the nauplii and copepods they eat. and the seahorses create a a huge waste load, so maybe these will help. This is sounding great!

Boomer · 11-06-2009, 01:05 AM

As long as the seahorse tank has some current. Hard to feed a filter feeder with hardly no current.

For now feed them as best as you can with what you have. They also feed on what we call "Marine Snow" which TLF has. Do not try to feed them brine shrimp, they are to large. You need larval food.

11-04-2009, 07:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
beachbabies Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Does any one know what this is? (pic included) http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/a...g/IMG_0262.jpg I found this and can't find anyone that has ever seen anything like it before. it's red and orange, but i have also seen it in peach and grey. It's fleshy, like the inside of a grape. i found it at a peir, in VERY calm, VERY dirty water, close to the surface. Water temp is in the mid 70's. it's definately not a spounge. it's soft , w/ no skeleton. it was very easy to scrape off. It seems to be doing ok now, I colected it on Friday and mounted it on Monday. The peice that I found was growing on a clump of seaweed. when I started trimming it worms started pouring out (of the seaweed) I'm pretty sure I got them all off. does anyone thow what this is? Last edited by beachbabies : 11-04-2009 at 07:06 AM. Reason: fixed pic link

11-04-2009, 07:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
beachbabies Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Oh my God World!!!!!! Be proud of me! This is the first time I have sucessfuly added a pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am soooooooooooooooo awesome! it may seem like nothing to you, but thiat pic right there, that I just posted took me hours to figure out! HOURS! And I did it all by my self! I took the pic, I downloaded the pic, i uploaded the pic, I posted the pic! ME! If you all actually knew me, you would all be in disbelief! TA DA! I think I'm gonna go have me a cookie!

11-04-2009, 07:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
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11-04-2009, 11:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
tektite Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 651 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) It looks a little more like colonial tunicates to me. I had some in my tank that were similar looking. Take a look at the pictures at the very bottom of this page, they look very close to your picture. __________________ --Tek-- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. My Fish Room thread

11-04-2009, 01:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,608 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Tek has it correct, they are colonial Styleid botrylloide tunicates They are Botryllus sp, like Botryllus letpus or Botryllus leachii ( what I think yours are) Botryllus Their Biology Botryllus leachii Botryllus letpus others __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

11-04-2009, 03:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
beachbabies Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Thanks so much tek and boomer! Now the big ? is, is it ok to keep in my tank, or should I pull it out?

11-04-2009, 03:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
tektite Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 651 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Tunicates are harmless filter feeders, they're fine to keep. Most reef tanks are run too "clean" for them though, and they'll not survive long w/o enough food. __________________ --Tek-- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. My Fish Room thread

11-04-2009, 05:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
beachbabies Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) should I use supplements? They might do well in my seahorse tank, it's plenty dirty in there! but that would mean that I would have to run lights on the tank, I'm loving it w/ no light, there's no algea! BTW, awesome job on the ID, I've asked divers and LFS, and even the aquarium about this, and no one has ever seen or heard of anything like it!

11-04-2009, 06:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
tektite Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 651 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Tunicates are non-photosynthetic, don't need lights. Beyond that, I really don't know specifics on feeding them. Thanks! I read up on them when I first joined RS and 'tunicate' was the title under my name. Interesting little things. __________________ --Tek-- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. My Fish Room thread

11-05-2009, 12:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,608 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) Some Tunicates are photosynthetic and contain Blue-Green Algae, Cyanobacteria but not these. The only real sup you need to worry about is Vanadium, which is a blood group, Vanadocytes, for many of them. You should try to target feed them with a syringe, using live phytoplankton or powdered or dry phytoplankton, creating a cloud above them and allowing it to settle on them. DO NOT try to blast them or they will just close up __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

11-05-2009, 07:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
beachbabies Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) can i use powdered spirulina? I have a brine enrichment that I mix, I use spirulina, algeamac, and naturose in T. iso. is that ok? I can start a culture, I've been wanting to fo a while now, but it'll take atleast 2 weeks until it'll be ready. If it doesn't need light, I could put it in my dwarf seahorse tank. the extra phyto would help supplement the nauplii and copepods they eat. and the seahorses create a a huge waste load, so maybe these will help. This is sounding great!

11-06-2009, 01:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,608 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Does any one know what this is? (pic included) As long as the seahorse tank has some current. Hard to feed a filter feeder with hardly no current. For now feed them as best as you can with what you have. They also feed on what we call "Marine Snow" which TLF has. Do not try to feed them brine shrimp, they are to large. You need larval food. __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

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