feather duster or Ich?

extremelyslow · 06-18-2004, 09:58 PM

After introducing some live rock, I found these little white, circular spots growing very rapidly in my tank. My two clowns don't seem affected by any Ich, but I'm concerned because these critters are growing so fast.

I've been scraping them off as I see them, as I was very concerned about Ich. I then put one under a 10x microscope and took a pic. I could see two 'tails' which makes me more concerned about Ich.

Thanks for any help w/the ID...

extremelyslow · 06-18-2004, 10:01 PM

here's the macro-view. These critters are quite circular, and white.

ReefLady · 06-18-2004, 10:09 PM

Looks like spirorbid worms.

Harmless, and common.

HTH,

ReefLady · 06-18-2004, 10:18 PM

Btw, some infol on them here:

Reefkeeper's Guide to Invertebrate Zoology: Part 10: Sedentary Polychaetes, Con't.

Look under " Spirorbidae"

HTH!!

extremelyslow · 06-18-2004, 10:31 PM

Thanks Reeflady, I was just trying to cross-reference. Looking under the scope, I haven't been able to notice a spiral, or spiraling tendancy. Perhaps I can get a better picture, but they appear to have two flagella (if I remember my biology) or long skinny protrusions coming from one side.

I suppose I should 'treat the symptom', and since my beloved clowns don't have any symptoms, I won't do anything.

Thanks again!

ReefLady · 06-18-2004, 10:42 PM

Hmmm methinks you're not going to live up to your name. Nice research.

Sorry, but my best guess is some sort of sedentary polychaete! Not too specific, sorry.

ReefLady · 06-18-2004, 10:43 PM

Btw, Ich will only appear on fish, not on glass or other inverts ..... if that helps at all.

extremelyslow · 06-18-2004, 10:51 PM

That helps. I've just taken the monocular lens out of my microscope and put it to the glass. I can't get a digital pic, but this little sonofagun is all white, and about 80% full w/little yellow/orange (I hate to say it..) eggs. I really think I need to scrape-siphon all these critters out of the tank (again). I'll try to get a better pic up, as I'm getting more concerned now that I see their biological intention...

Thanks again! I hope to post some microscope pics later..

Scott

extremelyslow · 06-18-2004, 11:24 PM

I was able to scrape off some of these critters, and get a picture through the scope. I'm not sure if a worm would be filled with eggs. These guys are very white and filled about 3/4 w/yellow (mini-eggs). They remind me of an egg, and I hope they're not a 'bad-egg'... Thanks to all for the help...

Boomer · 06-19-2004, 03:25 AM

Slow

They sure look like Spirorbids as Teri has stateed

With the shell ;

Releasing eggs;

With the shell drawing;

Without the shell drawing;

With Epifauna, meaning small animals that grow on the shell of the animal

ReefLady · 06-19-2004, 07:24 AM

Dang ... nice pics, Boomer.

Boomer · 06-19-2004, 01:22 PM

extremelyslow · 07-14-2004, 06:47 PM

thanks all for the help. i now think that these were turbo snail eggs. i have seen my turbo snails 'wrastling' a couple of times, and it seems (?) that i now have some new tiny snails.

i hope they leave the Barry White on for the clowns....

06-18-2004, 09:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	feather duster or Ich? After introducing some live rock, I found these little white, circular spots growing very rapidly in my tank. My two clowns don't seem affected by any Ich, but I'm concerned because these critters are growing so fast. I've been scraping them off as I see them, as I was very concerned about Ich. I then put one under a 10x microscope and took a pic. I could see two 'tails' which makes me more concerned about Ich. Thanks for any help w/the ID... Last edited by extremelyslow : 06-18-2004 at 11:18 PM.

06-18-2004, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Looks like spirorbid worms. Harmless, and common. HTH, __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

06-18-2004, 10:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Btw, some infol on them here: Reefkeeper's Guide to Invertebrate Zoology: Part 10: Sedentary Polychaetes, Con't. Look under " Spirorbidae" HTH!! __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

06-18-2004, 10:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hmmm methinks you're not going to live up to your name. Nice research. Sorry, but my best guess is some sort of sedentary polychaete! Not too specific, sorry. __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

06-18-2004, 10:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Btw, Ich will only appear on fish, not on glass or other inverts ..... if that helps at all. __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

06-18-2004, 10:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	here's the macro-view. These critters are quite circular, and white.

06-18-2004, 10:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks Reeflady, I was just trying to cross-reference. Looking under the scope, I haven't been able to notice a spiral, or spiraling tendancy. Perhaps I can get a better picture, but they appear to have two flagella (if I remember my biology) or long skinny protrusions coming from one side. I suppose I should 'treat the symptom', and since my beloved clowns don't have any symptoms, I won't do anything. Thanks again!

06-18-2004, 10:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	That helps. I've just taken the monocular lens out of my microscope and put it to the glass. I can't get a digital pic, but this little sonofagun is all white, and about 80% full w/little yellow/orange (I hate to say it..) eggs. I really think I need to scrape-siphon all these critters out of the tank (again). I'll try to get a better pic up, as I'm getting more concerned now that I see their biological intention... Thanks again! I hope to post some microscope pics later.. Scott

06-18-2004, 11:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	I was able to scrape off some of these critters, and get a picture through the scope. I'm not sure if a worm would be filled with eggs. These guys are very white and filled about 3/4 w/yellow (mini-eggs). They remind me of an egg, and I hope they're not a 'bad-egg'... Thanks to all for the help...

06-19-2004, 03:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,070 View Gallery Karma Komment	Slow They sure look like Spirorbids as Teri has stateed With the shell ; Releasing eggs; With the shell drawing; Without the shell drawing; With Epifauna, meaning small animals that grow on the shell of the animal __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

06-19-2004, 07:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Dang ... nice pics, Boomer. __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

06-19-2004, 01:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,070 View Gallery Karma Komment	__________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

07-14-2004, 06:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
extremelyslow Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9 View Gallery Karma Komment	thanks all for the help. i now think that these were turbo snail eggs. i have seen my turbo snails 'wrastling' a couple of times, and it seems (?) that i now have some new tiny snails. i hope they leave the Barry White on for the clowns....

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