Critter on glass...

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 03:59 PM

I have seen these now and again on my glass but never had the camera handy when I did. They look like a small space ship with two forward pointing protrusions. They are VERY mobile and move quicker than you'd ever think. Roughly the size of 1/2 grain of rice or smaller.

Dentoid · 11-11-2007, 04:18 PM

Flatworm!

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 04:19 PM

grrr that's what I thought you would say.... just HOW bad is that?

Dentoid · 11-11-2007, 04:25 PM

Usually not good. Hopefully someone else will chime in, I have not dealt with them in my 90 only in my 20. I just suck them out when I see them on the glass in my 20.

GeeWizzItsMe · 11-11-2007, 04:34 PM

You have a 20??? Where is your chronicle??????

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 04:45 PM

I'll just watch for them and suck them out as well.

Dentoid · 11-11-2007, 05:00 PM

Al, I've heard of others using Flatworm Exit with success. When you get your 90 set up you may want to consider not moving anything from this tank to it unless your sure the flatworms are erradicate.

Christopher, I do have a 20, it's a flower in the basement. I have a pair of Harlequin shrimps and some coral frags that I moved there from my main tank. It has not fish and is really nothing to look at. Just a frag tank kind of.

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 05:37 PM

Thanks Scott. I'll HAVE to do something because ALL of the LR in this tank is eventually destined for the 90g tank.

vdituri · 11-11-2007, 06:46 PM

Wrasses Al.

You dodge the flatworm bullet on one thread and run smack dab into them with this pic?
You have alot of critters in your tank.

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Yeah tell me about it vic! DANG it!!

Frankie · 11-11-2007, 08:35 PM

Victor,
you helped me ID a worm last night and gave me a great link for id'ing. But i cannot find the one Al has. I am not so sold on flat worms. Can some one post an id link to there finding this a flat worm?
I have yet to find a picture of one with tails like that.

panmanmatt · 11-11-2007, 08:48 PM

Yes they are flatworms, however not the ones that reach plague proportions. The white flatworms are totally harmless and will usually go away on their own.

The red flatworms, planaria sp, are the ones that reach plague proportions and are a PITA to get rid of.

Flat Worms

BigAl07 · 11-11-2007, 08:56 PM

Great ID Matt! Yes one of those pics is for SURE what I have seen.

Thanks

panmanmatt · 11-11-2007, 08:58 PM

Np Al. If you click on the pic in the link, it will open the folder with more pics of them. Same for the reds too.

flricordia · 11-11-2007, 09:32 PM

Most species of flatworm are harmless. They can grow in numbers enough to choke out the coraline on LR, but most dont bother anything. They are sustained by the organic load, usually through feeding fish and inverts. Most reef tanks have a few at least and I have seen some overwhelmed, but in the end the populations died out and kept in check. One excellent fish for keeping them in check in a 6-lined wrasse, but you have to be careful abotu feeding the wrasse other foods or it will become lazy if well fed and stop hunting the flatworms.
Keep your feeding down to a min., do regular water changes and use an airline hose placed into a bucket (so you can put the water back) with a fine net or filter and syphon off the ones you see everyday and in no time they will dissapear.

11-11-2007, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Critter on glass... I have seen these now and again on my glass but never had the camera handy when I did. They look like a small space ship with two forward pointing protrusions. They are VERY mobile and move quicker than you'd ever think. Roughly the size of 1/2 grain of rice or smaller. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,289 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Flatworm! __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

11-11-2007, 04:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... grrr that's what I thought you would say.... just HOW bad is that? __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2007, 04:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,289 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Usually not good. Hopefully someone else will chime in, I have not dealt with them in my 90 only in my 20. I just suck them out when I see them on the glass in my 20. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

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11-11-2007, 04:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... I'll just watch for them and suck them out as well. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2007, 05:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,289 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Al, I've heard of others using Flatworm Exit with success. When you get your 90 set up you may want to consider not moving anything from this tank to it unless your sure the flatworms are erradicate. Christopher, I do have a 20, it's a flower in the basement. I have a pair of Harlequin shrimps and some coral frags that I moved there from my main tank. It has not fish and is really nothing to look at. Just a frag tank kind of. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

11-11-2007, 05:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... Thanks Scott. I'll HAVE to do something because ALL of the LR in this tank is eventually destined for the 90g tank. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2007, 06:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,772 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... Wrasses Al. You dodge the flatworm bullet on one thread and run smack dab into them with this pic? You have alot of critters in your tank. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

11-11-2007, 08:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... Yeah tell me about it vic! DANG it!! __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2007, 08:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... Victor, you helped me ID a worm last night and gave me a great link for id'ing. But i cannot find the one Al has. I am not so sold on flat worms. Can some one post an id link to there finding this a flat worm? I have yet to find a picture of one with tails like that. __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

11-11-2007, 08:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,028 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Yes they are flatworms, however not the ones that reach plague proportions. The white flatworms are totally harmless and will usually go away on their own. The red flatworms, planaria sp, are the ones that reach plague proportions and are a PITA to get rid of. Flat Worms __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

11-11-2007, 08:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Critter on glass... Great ID Matt! Yes one of those pics is for SURE what I have seen. Thanks __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2007, 08:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,028 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Np Al. If you click on the pic in the link, it will open the folder with more pics of them. Same for the reds too. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

11-11-2007, 09:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
flricordia Just Mike for short Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 595 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Critter on glass... Most species of flatworm are harmless. They can grow in numbers enough to choke out the coraline on LR, but most dont bother anything. They are sustained by the organic load, usually through feeding fish and inverts. Most reef tanks have a few at least and I have seen some overwhelmed, but in the end the populations died out and kept in check. One excellent fish for keeping them in check in a 6-lined wrasse, but you have to be careful abotu feeding the wrasse other foods or it will become lazy if well fed and stop hunting the flatworms. Keep your feeding down to a min., do regular water changes and use an airline hose placed into a bucket (so you can put the water back) with a fine net or filter and syphon off the ones you see everyday and in no time they will dissapear. __________________ 75 gl corallimorpharian/zoanthid tank http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/8473121807-med.jpg

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