New 240 Tank - Page 10

Warnberg · 05-21-2005, 10:51 PM

Ok, I am seeing something here and I was not expecting it, but my cleaner shrimp and the sebae anemone seem to have a symbiotic relationship. The shrimp hangs out around and in the anemone without issue and he also seems to chase away anything that comes near it. Is this a normal response?

KimPossible · 05-21-2005, 10:53 PM

My fireshrimp molts every two weeks also. I thought they molted as they grow...but, heck..that would make my shrimp a lobster by now.

KimPossible · 05-21-2005, 11:01 PM

I've seen many pics of a symbiotic relationship between the two. Very Nice Warnberg!! Now its your turn to show a pic

Warnberg · 05-21-2005, 11:24 PM

Well here ya go... standing guard....

KimPossible · 05-21-2005, 11:42 PM

Thats what im talking about!!! The pic on the back of John Tullocks"Natural Reef Aquariums" really got me itching for a Florida Pink-tipped and a Spotted Cleaning Shrimp.
Very Nice Dave !!

Warnberg · 05-22-2005, 09:05 AM

Kim, thanks... wasn't expecting these two to pair up but hey I'll take it.
They tell me this a White Sebae Anemone, this one has a lime green body, white tenticals with purple tips.

Woodstock · 05-22-2005, 09:23 AM

Beautiful anemone Wernberg!

mnreefman · 05-22-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cheeks69

I'll have to look that up I didn't think they could reproduce asexually.

they dont..

also just a lil fyi that sabae is bleached big time... make sure to feed it often untill its color comes back to a tanish brown...

otherwise looks good

mnreefman · 05-22-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Warnberg

Kim, thanks... wasn't expecting these two to pair up but hey I'll take it.
They tell me this a White Sebae Anemone, this one has a lime green body, white tenticals with purple tips.

see my previos post.... its bleached

Craig Manoukian · 05-22-2005, 11:13 AM

I concur, bleaching is a very common practice with Sabea anemones.

cheeks69 · 05-22-2005, 01:18 PM

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also just a lil fyi that sabae is bleached big time... make sure to feed it often untill its color comes back to a tanish brown...

Yes I agree had one just like it and it recovered just make sure you feed it weekly and that it gets good light and flow and hopefully it'll recover it's photosynthetic ability. Have you touched the anemone and noticed any response and is it sticky ?

Warnberg · 05-23-2005, 07:23 AM

Cheeks, when I put him in the tank he looked the same way and yes he was very sticky. I am feeding him at least every other day at this point should I feed more or is this too much?

One other thing, you guys ever see a sea cucumber shed? Like shed it's skin like a snake would? Mine started doing this last night and is still shedding this morning... weird.

Thanks

cheeks69 · 05-23-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Warnberg

Cheeks, when I put him in the tank he looked the same way and yes he was very sticky. I am feeding him at least every other day at this point should I feed more or is this too much?
Thanks

The fact that it's still sticky is a good sign, feeding every other day IMO would be too much, 2 to 3 times a week should suffice until he gets some color then once a week with good lighting will be all they need.

Here's a quote from Robert Fenner:

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Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Most losses in captive systems are the result of over-feeding. How many more times do I feel I need to write this? Bunches! Some anemones have been kept for YEARS without any intentional external feeding. Know your stock! Many anemones (especially larger species) are detritivorous (a polite term meaning they eat poop), planktivorous, and largely chemoautotrophic/photosynthesizing species/individuals that hobbyists try to over-stuff with meaty/prepared foods. My bid for largest cause of loss of anemones is the consequences (lack of oxygen, hydrogen and other sulfide production...) from over-feeding. Cut it out! Within normal temperatures and other conditions, most can and do do well on weekly feedings. If you're going on vacation, leave them alone.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anempt2.htm

Here's another good read from Anthony Calfo:

The Tragedy of Artificially Colored Live Corals

Warnberg · 05-23-2005, 02:49 PM

Thanks for the info Cheeks, how long do you think before the anemone would start showing some natural color?

corvettephreek · 05-23-2005, 04:18 PM

Warn, I have the SAME exact anemone... mine turned a burly tannish color in about a month, as well as it grew like mad. got it about 3", not its about 8". my cleaner shrimps molt almost every other week as well, and they havg around the anemone because it knows it grabs food floating around so it doesnt have to. be careful of this, unless you are spot feedingt the anemone. mine would have eventually starved had I not started spot feeding the poor thing. (thanks peppermint shrimp). also, it may take a while for the clowns to host in your anemone. mine have been around my anemone for about 3 months or so, and they are barely starting to hang out around it. best of luck!!!

Will

05-21-2005, 10:51 PM	#136 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Ok, I am seeing something here and I was not expecting it, but my cleaner shrimp and the sebae anemone seem to have a symbiotic relationship. The shrimp hangs out around and in the anemone without issue and he also seems to chase away anything that comes near it. Is this a normal response? __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

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KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	My fireshrimp molts every two weeks also. I thought they molted as they grow...but, heck..that would make my shrimp a lobster by now. __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

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KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I've seen many pics of a symbiotic relationship between the two. Very Nice Warnberg!! Now its your turn to show a pic __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

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KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Thats what im talking about!!! The pic on the back of John Tullocks"Natural Reef Aquariums" really got me itching for a Florida Pink-tipped and a Spotted Cleaning Shrimp. Very Nice Dave !! __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

05-22-2005, 09:05 AM	#141 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Kim, thanks... wasn't expecting these two to pair up but hey I'll take it. They tell me this a White Sebae Anemone, this one has a lime green body, white tenticals with purple tips. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

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Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,862 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Beautiful anemone Wernberg! __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 17,915 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I concur, bleaching is a very common practice with Sabea anemones. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Cheeks, when I put him in the tank he looked the same way and yes he was very sticky. I am feeding him at least every other day at this point should I feed more or is this too much? One other thing, you guys ever see a sea cucumber shed? Like shed it's skin like a snake would? Mine started doing this last night and is still shedding this morning... weird. Thanks __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller Last edited by Warnberg : 05-23-2005 at 09:53 AM.

05-23-2005, 02:49 PM	#149 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Thanks for the info Cheeks, how long do you think before the anemone would start showing some natural color? __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

05-23-2005, 04:18 PM	#150 (permalink)
corvettephreek Torch coral Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: northern california Posts: 562 View Gallery Karma Komment	Warn, I have the SAME exact anemone... mine turned a burly tannish color in about a month, as well as it grew like mad. got it about 3", not its about 8". my cleaner shrimps molt almost every other week as well, and they havg around the anemone because it knows it grabs food floating around so it doesnt have to. be careful of this, unless you are spot feedingt the anemone. mine would have eventually starved had I not started spot feeding the poor thing. (thanks peppermint shrimp). also, it may take a while for the clowns to host in your anemone. mine have been around my anemone for about 3 months or so, and they are barely starting to hang out around it. best of luck!!! Will __________________ Will (aka Willy Stylez) Will Foley Rolling Audio Sacramento, CA Mobile audio and security solutions Advanced level MECP installer

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