Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank - Page 3

chipmunkofdoom2 · 11-03-2009, 12:28 PM

Cool, I'll do a little sketch up when I get home.

chipmunkofdoom2 · 11-04-2009, 12:04 AM

Okay, here's my basic guide to electricity/wiring. If anyone wants to add something or has any corrections, feel free

I'll just explain what you need to know for our purposes since there are too many topics to talk about. Basically, most computer fans are 12 volts DC and draw somewhere between 100 and 300 mA (Newegg.com has a great selection of cheap computer fans, check them out). So, for one fan, you'd need a DC adapter that was at least rated for 12V, 300 mA (as you can see here, most DC adapters clearly list their output). For two fans, it gets tricky because you can wire them either in series or in parallel.

In a series, the wiring is something like what's shown below:

The positive of the first fan hooks up to the positive of the adapter, then the negative of the first fan gets hooked up to the positive of the second fan, and the negative of the second fan returns to the adapter's negative to complete the circuit. When wired like this, the devices "use up" voltage, and the amperage wouldn't really be effected. So in this case, the first fan would use up 12V, and the second fan would probably not spin, because there's no more voltage supplied by the adapter. In order for this type of wiring to work, you would need a 24v DC adapter. While you can find these, for your purposes, a 12v would probably be more readily available.

For your case though, a parallel circuit would probably be better:

In this case, the positive lead of both fans would be hooked up to the positive lead of the adapter, and same with the negatives. In this type of circuit, both fans get the same voltage and it's the amperage that gets used up. So, if these fans used up 300mA (.3 amps), then you'd need at least a 12V 600mA adapter. I'd recommend looking for higher amperage than you need, because the excess amperage doesn't get used up. The fans only draw what they need.

I think that's it... let me know if you have any questions or are confused about anything

Miltonic · 11-04-2009, 12:29 AM

Thanks a lot for the write up, I think I can pretty much understand everything but one question where do would I get the extra wire to split the DC charger? sorry but I never done this kind of stuff before xD

chipmunkofdoom2 · 11-04-2009, 12:52 AM

No problem!

Well it will likely come with wire already attached to it, but if you mean extra wire to reach from the adapter to the fixture, you could get it at a local hardware store or Lowe's/Home Depot.

Miltonic · 11-04-2009, 12:59 AM

im trying to see how I would go about putting the fans in the fixture, it doesnt look like there's much room in there. Screwing the them on the outside looks liek the easiest way to go at it.

chipmunkofdoom2 · 11-04-2009, 01:01 AM

You could certainly do it that way. They would still move the air. Just get some kind of fan guard or "grill".. it's not fun getting your fingers caught up in a 3,000 RPM fan....

Miltonic · 11-04-2009, 01:21 AM

or having my 6 year old brother getting his stuck in the since the tank is about his height. I think I have everything pretty much planned out now now all I need some fans and tools to start working this little project. btw does anyone know of any good 70w mh bulbs I could use?

Miltonic · 11-11-2009, 08:21 PM

I have a quick FTS of my nano today I moved my clown last week and today I added a head of my frogspawn and a pink birds nest frag to the tank. Im really thinking about a dding a 10g sump later on and will be replacing the stock bulb of my fixture with the Ushio 70w 20K bulb since the stock bulb doesnt seem to be strong enough.

The rock still looks pretty bare but as more hitchhikers go in from my other tank the rock will start to color up, I also scrape some coralline in the water so it spreads on the the rocks.

BigAl07 · 11-11-2009, 08:42 PM

Looking good.

Have you tried the "Fan Set-Up" yet?

Miltonic · 11-11-2009, 08:56 PM

Thanks Al and tbh I haven't gotten round to ordering the fans or finding a plug for it.

wow the pic is still huge im to have to resize it again.

Miltonic · 11-18-2009, 11:56 PM

I have a better FTS this time and as well as some pics of the inhabitants I have so far, all brought over from my 90

There's some algae growing but my snail CUC is currently working to cut it down

finally a good shot of my clown

Frogspawn

Pink Pocillipora

chipmunkofdoom2 · 11-19-2009, 12:58 AM

Great colors on the SPS!

BigAl07 · 11-19-2009, 02:10 AM

Looking GOOD buddy

Miltonic · 11-19-2009, 11:43 PM

Thanks guys and im glad the pics finally got resized.

11-03-2009, 12:28 PM	#31 (permalink)
chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Cool, I'll do a little sketch up when I get home. __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

11-04-2009, 12:04 AM	#32 (permalink)
chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Okay, here's my basic guide to electricity/wiring. If anyone wants to add something or has any corrections, feel free I'll just explain what you need to know for our purposes since there are too many topics to talk about. Basically, most computer fans are 12 volts DC and draw somewhere between 100 and 300 mA (Newegg.com has a great selection of cheap computer fans, check them out). So, for one fan, you'd need a DC adapter that was at least rated for 12V, 300 mA (as you can see here, most DC adapters clearly list their output). For two fans, it gets tricky because you can wire them either in series or in parallel. In a series, the wiring is something like what's shown below: The positive of the first fan hooks up to the positive of the adapter, then the negative of the first fan gets hooked up to the positive of the second fan, and the negative of the second fan returns to the adapter's negative to complete the circuit. When wired like this, the devices "use up" voltage, and the amperage wouldn't really be effected. So in this case, the first fan would use up 12V, and the second fan would probably not spin, because there's no more voltage supplied by the adapter. In order for this type of wiring to work, you would need a 24v DC adapter. While you can find these, for your purposes, a 12v would probably be more readily available. For your case though, a parallel circuit would probably be better: In this case, the positive lead of both fans would be hooked up to the positive lead of the adapter, and same with the negatives. In this type of circuit, both fans get the same voltage and it's the amperage that gets used up. So, if these fans used up 300mA (.3 amps), then you'd need at least a 12V 600mA adapter. I'd recommend looking for higher amperage than you need, because the excess amperage doesn't get used up. The fans only draw what they need. I think that's it... let me know if you have any questions or are confused about anything __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

11-04-2009, 12:29 AM	#33 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Thanks a lot for the write up, I think I can pretty much understand everything but one question where do would I get the extra wire to split the DC charger? sorry but I never done this kind of stuff before xD __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-04-2009, 12:52 AM	#34 (permalink)
chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank No problem! Well it will likely come with wire already attached to it, but if you mean extra wire to reach from the adapter to the fixture, you could get it at a local hardware store or Lowe's/Home Depot. __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

11-04-2009, 12:59 AM	#35 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank im trying to see how I would go about putting the fans in the fixture, it doesnt look like there's much room in there. Screwing the them on the outside looks liek the easiest way to go at it. __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-04-2009, 01:01 AM	#36 (permalink)
chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank You could certainly do it that way. They would still move the air. Just get some kind of fan guard or "grill".. it's not fun getting your fingers caught up in a 3,000 RPM fan.... __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

11-04-2009, 01:21 AM	#37 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank or having my 6 year old brother getting his stuck in the since the tank is about his height. I think I have everything pretty much planned out now now all I need some fans and tools to start working this little project. btw does anyone know of any good 70w mh bulbs I could use? __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-11-2009, 08:21 PM	#38 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank I have a quick FTS of my nano today I moved my clown last week and today I added a head of my frogspawn and a pink birds nest frag to the tank. Im really thinking about a dding a 10g sump later on and will be replacing the stock bulb of my fixture with the Ushio 70w 20K bulb since the stock bulb doesnt seem to be strong enough. The rock still looks pretty bare but as more hitchhikers go in from my other tank the rock will start to color up, I also scrape some coralline in the water so it spreads on the the rocks. __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-11-2009, 08:42 PM	#39 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Looking good. Have you tried the "Fan Set-Up" yet? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-11-2009, 08:56 PM	#40 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Thanks Al and tbh I haven't gotten round to ordering the fans or finding a plug for it. wow the pic is still huge im to have to resize it again. __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-18-2009, 11:56 PM	#41 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank I have a better FTS this time and as well as some pics of the inhabitants I have so far, all brought over from my 90 There's some algae growing but my snail CUC is currently working to cut it down finally a good shot of my clown Frogspawn Pink Pocillipora __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

11-19-2009, 12:58 AM	#42 (permalink)
chipmunkofdoom2 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stewartstown, PA Posts: 1,309 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Great colors on the SPS! __________________ Will sell my body for ricordea DIY High Power LED Retro!

11-19-2009, 02:10 AM	#43 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Looking GOOD buddy __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-19-2009, 11:43 PM	#44 (permalink)
Miltonic Cabbage Leather Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milt's 10g Nano/Frag tank Thanks guys and im glad the pics finally got resized. __________________ A Reef for XX - Follow my progress through the set up for my first reef tank.

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