Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 9

Frankie · 05-07-2008, 11:34 PM

Ok, this is what i used when i built my 120. I doubt there is a difference between silicones for aquariums. I just wanted to use what the pro's use. It actually cost the same as dap.
Here's the link, I just want to see you successful.
99AS

Varga · 05-07-2008, 11:43 PM

heres the story:

with the last tank, I used the CRL, waited 48 hours and filled it up, half way full the epoxy released the silicone!!!!! water everywhere!!!!

Called the LFS and told them, of course they said "plywood thank??? waht the...." another LFS told me to use GE I, and back then GARF recommended GE I, now they have changed it to "aquarium safe silicone" any ways, GE I work like a champ and has lasted 5 years now (tank that crashed, still in use

)

I have used the CRL to make smaller all glass tank but I dont think it like to attach to Epoxy at all.

Frankie · 05-07-2008, 11:49 PM

Ok. I was not trying to get you to use CRL but to wait for a longer cure time. I built my 120 completely and it is 100%. Good to know though you had issues with it on epoxy. It's cool. I hope everything go's smooth and you have years to grow corals to frag out to me

Varga · 05-07-2008, 11:53 PM

I will give it longer curing time. I'm putting something like 3 tubes in the front panel only!! so 7 days sounds reasonable. Plus I need time to psyche myslef up and get ready for the worst case senario!

thanks Frankie

Frankie · 05-07-2008, 11:58 PM

I have no doubt it will be perfect

Craig Manoukian · 05-08-2008, 12:43 AM

Awesome Varga, schematic detail is first rate!

CMG · 05-08-2008, 01:17 AM

AAAAAA 2 more weeks!!!

I cant wait that long....I am freakin out here!!

haha

This is such a great thread.

Varga · 05-08-2008, 01:33 AM

Thanks guys, I cant wait either, I'm looking at the wall visualizing it in there with my Naso swimming around. Right now all he can do is dash back and forth, he can barely even turn around.

cracker · 05-08-2008, 01:39 AM

Great work! I have a plywood sump but it's no way near the size of your project.

Varga · 05-08-2008, 01:43 AM

I think I've seen your sump. white one, right? how old is it? holding up good?

cracker · 05-08-2008, 02:05 AM

Yes, It's still holding water & solid . Got to be at least 5 years now. The screws are starting to show & the paint is starting to come off the top braces just a bit. I didn't cover these areas as well as should have. Like I said much smaller scale than your box but with your attention shown it should turn out fine!

Frankie · 05-08-2008, 06:52 AM

Since your willing to wait another 7 days, why not get another coat on it? Ok, I'm out of here

JoJo · 05-08-2008, 10:21 AM

you're making serious progress Varga! i'm with Frankie on the wait period. great job

Varga · 05-08-2008, 11:08 AM

I plan on getting 2 more coats on it while the silicone cures. the front panel wont be getting another coat but it will be getting TONS of silicone.

this epoxy is amazing stuff. I let the left over dry in the roller pan and the dry product is like tire rubber!

I decided to use my 2 Iwaki 30's for now and upgrade my skimmer pump instead with a Iwaki 70rlt.
Eventually I will upgrade the return pump but it will be months before I build my sps colection and I dont think a few softies care too much about return rate or anything else for that matter.
Judging by how they survived the crash, I think they would live in a bucket if they had to

Frankie · 05-08-2008, 11:57 AM

I am waiting for the outcome. If this go's off well i am going to build one! I always wanted a predator tank!

05-07-2008, 11:34 PM	#121 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, this is what i used when i built my 120. I doubt there is a difference between silicones for aquariums. I just wanted to use what the pro's use. It actually cost the same as dap. Here's the link, I just want to see you successful. 99AS __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

05-07-2008, 11:43 PM	#122 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,087 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! heres the story: with the last tank, I used the CRL, waited 48 hours and filled it up, half way full the epoxy released the silicone!!!!! water everywhere!!!! Called the LFS and told them, of course they said "plywood thank??? waht the...." another LFS told me to use GE I, and back then GARF recommended GE I, now they have changed it to "aquarium safe silicone" any ways, GE I work like a champ and has lasted 5 years now (tank that crashed, still in use) I have used the CRL to make smaller all glass tank but I dont think it like to attach to Epoxy at all.

05-07-2008, 11:49 PM	#123 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok. I was not trying to get you to use CRL but to wait for a longer cure time. I built my 120 completely and it is 100%. Good to know though you had issues with it on epoxy. It's cool. I hope everything go's smooth and you have years to grow corals to frag out to me __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

05-07-2008, 11:53 PM	#124 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,087 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! I will give it longer curing time. I'm putting something like 3 tubes in the front panel only!! so 7 days sounds reasonable. Plus I need time to psyche myslef up and get ready for the worst case senario! thanks Frankie

05-07-2008, 11:58 PM	#125 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no doubt it will be perfect __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

05-08-2008, 12:43 AM	#126 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 15,732 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome Varga, schematic detail is first rate! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

05-08-2008, 01:17 AM	#127 (permalink)
CMG Scopas Tang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sonoma County, CA Posts: 473 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAA 2 more weeks!!! I cant wait that long....I am freakin out here!! haha This is such a great thread. __________________ My Chronical: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wlr-setup.html 40g, Purple Dartfish (squirley), Banggai Cardinal (Spot), 3 sand sifting snails, 3 nerite snails and a golden banded shrimp (Batman).

05-08-2008, 01:33 AM	#128 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,087 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks guys, I cant wait either, I'm looking at the wall visualizing it in there with my Naso swimming around. Right now all he can do is dash back and forth, he can barely even turn around.

05-08-2008, 01:39 AM	#129 (permalink)
cracker Reef Lobster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,604 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Great work! I have a plywood sump but it's no way near the size of your project.

05-08-2008, 01:43 AM	#130 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,087 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I've seen your sump. white one, right? how old is it? holding up good?

05-08-2008, 02:05 AM	#131 (permalink)
cracker Reef Lobster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Florida Posts: 1,604 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, It's still holding water & solid . Got to be at least 5 years now. The screws are starting to show & the paint is starting to come off the top braces just a bit. I didn't cover these areas as well as should have. Like I said much smaller scale than your box but with your attention shown it should turn out fine!

05-08-2008, 06:52 AM	#132 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Since your willing to wait another 7 days, why not get another coat on it? Ok, I'm out of here __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

05-08-2008, 11:08 AM	#134 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,087 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! I plan on getting 2 more coats on it while the silicone cures. the front panel wont be getting another coat but it will be getting TONS of silicone. this epoxy is amazing stuff. I let the left over dry in the roller pan and the dry product is like tire rubber! I decided to use my 2 Iwaki 30's for now and upgrade my skimmer pump instead with a Iwaki 70rlt. Eventually I will upgrade the return pump but it will be months before I build my sps colection and I dont think a few softies care too much about return rate or anything else for that matter. Judging by how they survived the crash, I think they would live in a bucket if they had to

05-08-2008, 11:57 AM	#135 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! I am waiting for the outcome. If this go's off well i am going to build one! I always wanted a predator tank! __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

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