Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3

AQTCJAK · 05-03-2008, 01:20 AM

Looks really cool. I agree with Craing Tempared glass not saftey

Varga · 05-03-2008, 01:25 AM

got it, thank you

i'll look into it tomorrow

JWarren · 05-03-2008, 01:58 AM

Did you screw the plywood together? What kind of screws did you use, if so?

Varga · 05-03-2008, 02:00 AM

8x3 galvanized deck screws one every 4 inches and used 2 tubes of liquid nails

JWarren · 05-03-2008, 02:07 AM

Did you run them in with silicone or are you just going to seal the heads with the epoxy?

Frankie · 05-03-2008, 02:09 AM

Tempered all the way. Forget about Starphire for this run imo. It's way more money and weaker. They don't call it low iron content glass for nothing

I don't even think they can temper Starphire. Starphire is just a brand name for low iron glass.
I have seen many ply wood tanks. The best ones i have seen are 2x4 framed and braced to the hilt. And those seep also. There is not much salt water cannot destroy. Go to a boat yard and inspect a few old boats. You might even get some better ideas and consider fiber glass. It will last a bit longer that is for sure. Hate to bash this early on but everyones rooting you on without thinking of your safety. You understand how much pressure and weight 300 gallons is i hope. This is not something i would build hammered either. Alcohol will impair your skills i don't care what anyone says.

SJS · 05-03-2008, 10:46 AM

I'll be following along..

Varga · 05-03-2008, 10:57 AM

Its 0.33 pounds of pressure per square inch.

when I decided to replace the top braces on my 100g ply tank, I took them off, tank did not bow at all so I left it for maybe 2 hours, came back, mesured, no bow not even 1/6" sice then I have trust in plywood

Frankie, are you saying no beer while working on this? thats it, project canceled

Varga · 05-03-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWarren

Did you run them in with silicone or are you just going to seal the heads with the epoxy?

just putty then and epoxy. water doesnt touch the screws eccept of course for my daily spills running down the outside of the tank

Varga · 05-03-2008, 01:24 PM

question for overflow experts:

6" coast to coast, or just two corner boxes? corner boxes would add strength to the joints.

tempered glass it is

Thanks

Varga · 05-03-2008, 01:31 PM

coast to coast is the dark spot under the box an issue?

Varga · 05-03-2008, 01:31 PM

corner top view

madgaffr · 05-03-2008, 02:41 PM

If you are doing all this woodwork/epoxy, why not make an external coast to coast and therefore use no real estate inside the tank?

Craig Manoukian · 05-03-2008, 02:50 PM

If this is going to be your real dream show piece, I would recommend 3/4" starfire low iron glass as the extra thickness will compensate for the lower strength and the additional clarity, because you only have one viewing panel, will be well worth the extra cost IMO. I double checked this with Jack this morning.

Good luck, lot's of cool work ahead.

Varga · 05-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Thanks for the input Craig, hes checking on Starfire prices but I was told it will be well above Tempered prices. I'm on a budget here

and I dont really have a problem with the green tint

05-03-2008, 01:20 AM	#31 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,259 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks really cool. I agree with Craing Tempared glass not saftey __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com Projects & Chronicels http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...car-buffs.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nts-tanks.html

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Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,091 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! got it, thank you i'll look into it tomorrow

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JWarren Achilles Tang Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 878 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you screw the plywood together? What kind of screws did you use, if so? __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. The 10 gallon quarantine tank. The 55 gallon. Help build ReefPedia!

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Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,091 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! 8x3 galvanized deck screws one every 4 inches and used 2 tubes of liquid nails

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JWarren Achilles Tang Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 878 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you run them in with silicone or are you just going to seal the heads with the epoxy? __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. The 10 gallon quarantine tank. The 55 gallon. Help build ReefPedia!

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Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,039 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Tempered all the way. Forget about Starphire for this run imo. It's way more money and weaker. They don't call it low iron content glass for nothing I don't even think they can temper Starphire. Starphire is just a brand name for low iron glass. I have seen many ply wood tanks. The best ones i have seen are 2x4 framed and braced to the hilt. And those seep also. There is not much salt water cannot destroy. Go to a boat yard and inspect a few old boats. You might even get some better ideas and consider fiber glass. It will last a bit longer that is for sure. Hate to bash this early on but everyones rooting you on without thinking of your safety. You understand how much pressure and weight 300 gallons is i hope. This is not something i would build hammered either. Alcohol will impair your skills i don't care what anyone says. __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

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05-03-2008, 10:57 AM	#38 (permalink)
Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,091 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Its 0.33 pounds of pressure per square inch. when I decided to replace the top braces on my 100g ply tank, I took them off, tank did not bow at all so I left it for maybe 2 hours, came back, mesured, no bow not even 1/6" sice then I have trust in plywood Frankie, are you saying no beer while working on this? thats it, project canceled

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Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,091 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! question for overflow experts: 6" coast to coast, or just two corner boxes? corner boxes would add strength to the joints. tempered glass it is Thanks

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Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 15,744 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! If this is going to be your real dream show piece, I would recommend 3/4" starfire low iron glass as the extra thickness will compensate for the lower strength and the additional clarity, because you only have one viewing panel, will be well worth the extra cost IMO. I double checked this with Jack this morning. Good luck, lot's of cool work ahead. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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Varga Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,091 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Varga's 300 Gallon In-Wall Build!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the input Craig, hes checking on Starfire prices but I was told it will be well above Tempered prices. I'm on a budget here and I dont really have a problem with the green tint

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