My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle - Page 7

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boozeman

looks like you are nearing a final design choice

Yeah, but no one is helping me finalize these important measurements!!! These sizes I need to be spot on, and I need help with them. I don't think this aspect is personal preference, but rather a definitive necessity in order for proper tank operation.

Yes I have an idea in my head, but I need the correct measurements from you pros!!!!!!

BigAl07 · 01-23-2008, 01:40 PM

I wouldn't just take a "measurment from the pros". I'd get a bulkhead IN hand and send them WITH the tank. Better safe than sorry

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

I wouldn't just take a "measurment from the pros". I'd get a bulkhead IN hand and send them WITH the tank. Better safe than sorry

I totally understand, but if I go with Envision.... they are in Portland, OR. It makes it hard to do "face to face" when I'm in NC. With that being said, I will need to convey my thoughts and ideas to him via phone or email.... makes it a little tougher.

framerguy · 01-23-2008, 02:00 PM

The numbers Terry gave are good. 1-1/2" drain and 1" return. You will "T" at the top of the overflow to direct the return left and right.

I actually prefer going over the back with my return lines and just have drain lines drilled in the overflow so there's more for you to think about. I have my 1" drain line going to the sump and the 3/4" drain line going to the fuge. My 3/4"returns go over the back. I'ts not a problem unless you want to fit the tank with a cover to keep jumpers in the tank.

Now, if you do decide you like sleeping on the couch and make it an inwall tank then you want the lines to be inside the tank. I think it would be amazing to be able to see it from both sides too!

Maybe this helps.. maybe not. But there it is!

tbittner · 01-23-2008, 02:03 PM

1 1/4" drain and 1" return would be plenty for 750 gph. Just tell them that and I'm sure they will provide/sell you the bulkheads and install them.

This question is more for me but it will probably be of interest to you too. Should he have the holes drilled and bulkheads installed to add in a CL later if he decides he really wants/needs it? Just cap off the bulkheads at this time type of thing...

It's so much easier to have a tank drilled and bulkheads installed when there isn't WATER in it.

BigAl07 · 01-23-2008, 02:06 PM

I would say that if you're even entertaining the idea of seriously adding a CL later go ahead and do the drilling now.

framerguy · 01-23-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbittner

1 1/4" drain and 1" return would be plenty for 750 gph. Just tell them that and I'm sure they will provide/sell you the bulkheads and install them.

This question is more for me but it will probably be of interest to you too. Should he have the holes drilled and bulkheads installed to add in a CL later if he decides he really wants/needs it? Just cap off the bulkheads at this time type of thing...

It's so much easier to have a tank drilled and bulkheads installed when there isn't WATER in it.

Yes, do it now and plug them.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 02:10 PM

Thanks for the help everyone.

Now if I tee the 1" return line inside the overflow will the bulkheads need to be 1" as well for the linlocks or do they need to be reduced down??? I don't know what size the linlock fittings are.

BigAl07 · 01-23-2008, 02:12 PM

Where are you having your Over Flow placed?

In my 90 it's located just off-center to the left and I am NOT happy with it. I wish it were a left hand CORNER over flow.

I have my return (1") T'd off at the top of the return. Actually it's a Locline "Y" fitting.

tbittner · 01-23-2008, 02:14 PM

The biggest loclines that I've found are 3/4"

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 02:16 PM

Well Allen, I was planning on making my overflow in the center. My thoughts were that I could have 2 returns built into the overflow with locline fittings placed on each side about halfway up. So then I can actually build the LR around them so you wouldn't even see them, and the return flow would actually be shooting out of the small spaces I would make in the LR. I think it would look slick as well as keep the detritus off some of the LR. What do you guys think?

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Thanks Terry.... So that means that my 1" return lines will need to be reduced to 3/4 after I tee them. So thats telling me that I will need to tell the tank builder to make 3/4" holes where I want my returns to be placed.

BigAl07 · 01-23-2008, 02:18 PM

I like the idea but I still say I'm not pleased with my OF taking up valuable real estate right where I'm looking all the time. This is my first "Real" tank and my thoughts may change but after that last couple of weeks working on the plumbing and rock work I'm not pleases with a centrally located OF.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 02:22 PM

Well I thought about a corner overflow and the reason I don't want to go that route is because I am building an acrylic tank. If I put the overflow in the corner then it would force me to build up the LR on the sides to conceal everything. Obviously doing so greatly increases the risk of scratching the acrylic. So for me, the best option is to stay in the middle.

framerguy · 01-23-2008, 02:25 PM

The return lines usually don't need to have holes drilled for them at the top. The "T" is set just at the top of the overflow and the left and right pipes just "rest" on top of the overflow edge.

01-23-2008, 01:40 PM	#92 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,496 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle I wouldn't just take a "measurment from the pros". I'd get a bulkhead IN hand and send them WITH the tank. Better safe than sorry __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-23-2008, 02:00 PM	#94 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,523 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle The numbers Terry gave are good. 1-1/2" drain and 1" return. You will "T" at the top of the overflow to direct the return left and right. I actually prefer going over the back with my return lines and just have drain lines drilled in the overflow so there's more for you to think about. I have my 1" drain line going to the sump and the 3/4" drain line going to the fuge. My 3/4"returns go over the back. I'ts not a problem unless you want to fit the tank with a cover to keep jumpers in the tank. Now, if you do decide you like sleeping on the couch and make it an inwall tank then you want the lines to be inside the tank. I think it would be amazing to be able to see it from both sides too! Maybe this helps.. maybe not. But there it is! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

01-23-2008, 02:03 PM	#95 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle 1 1/4" drain and 1" return would be plenty for 750 gph. Just tell them that and I'm sure they will provide/sell you the bulkheads and install them. This question is more for me but it will probably be of interest to you too. Should he have the holes drilled and bulkheads installed to add in a CL later if he decides he really wants/needs it? Just cap off the bulkheads at this time type of thing... It's so much easier to have a tank drilled and bulkheads installed when there isn't WATER in it. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-23-2008, 02:06 PM	#96 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,496 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle I would say that if you're even entertaining the idea of seriously adding a CL later go ahead and do the drilling now. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-23-2008, 02:10 PM	#98 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Thanks for the help everyone. Now if I tee the 1" return line inside the overflow will the bulkheads need to be 1" as well for the linlocks or do they need to be reduced down??? I don't know what size the linlock fittings are. __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-23-2008, 02:12 PM	#99 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,496 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Where are you having your Over Flow placed? In my 90 it's located just off-center to the left and I am NOT happy with it. I wish it were a left hand CORNER over flow. I have my return (1") T'd off at the top of the return. Actually it's a Locline "Y" fitting. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-23-2008, 02:14 PM	#100 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle The biggest loclines that I've found are 3/4" __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-23-2008, 02:16 PM	#101 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Well Allen, I was planning on making my overflow in the center. My thoughts were that I could have 2 returns built into the overflow with locline fittings placed on each side about halfway up. So then I can actually build the LR around them so you wouldn't even see them, and the return flow would actually be shooting out of the small spaces I would make in the LR. I think it would look slick as well as keep the detritus off some of the LR. What do you guys think? __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#102 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Thanks Terry.... So that means that my 1" return lines will need to be reduced to 3/4 after I tee them. So thats telling me that I will need to tell the tank builder to make 3/4" holes where I want my returns to be placed. __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#103 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,496 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle I like the idea but I still say I'm not pleased with my OF taking up valuable real estate right where I'm looking all the time. This is my first "Real" tank and my thoughts may change but after that last couple of weeks working on the plumbing and rock work I'm not pleases with a centrally located OF. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-23-2008, 02:22 PM	#104 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Well I thought about a corner overflow and the reason I don't want to go that route is because I am building an acrylic tank. If I put the overflow in the corner then it would force me to build up the LR on the sides to conceal everything. Obviously doing so greatly increases the risk of scratching the acrylic. So for me, the best option is to stay in the middle. __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-23-2008, 02:25 PM	#105 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,523 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle The return lines usually don't need to have holes drilled for them at the top. The "T" is set just at the top of the overflow and the left and right pipes just "rest" on top of the overflow edge. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

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