My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle - Page 11

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by framerguy

That 3"wide x 4"tall x 48" wide trough goes from end to end (ie:coast to coast). In the corner (or in the middle, or where ever you want it) there is a smallish box, say 6 x 3 that runs the height of the tank. You plumb that area the same as your other overflow would have been. The return pipe is hidden inside the coast to coast and piped out either end. You don't really lose anything you would have been using anyway.

A true coast to coast like you stated Greg, would encompass the whole height of the tank (24"). Therefore you could run all your plumbing internally through the bottom. Doing the math L x W divided by 231 would give you the amount in gallons that a true top to bottom coast to coast would take up... In my case that would be 18g. Again, I'm not sure if I want to give up that much internal space.

Terry was speaking of a coast to coast system that went all the way across, but only went about 3-4" down from the waters surface. I think that way you would have to plumb externally.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 11:38 PM

If I did want to run a true coast to coast, would I need to run multiple drains to manage the entire 48" surface?

tbittner · 01-23-2008, 11:41 PM

No. It wouldn't change the flow any. All it would do is provide pure surface skimming. Pretty much 100% of the water going to the sump/fuge/skimmer would be surface water. That's all that long box would provide.

And it would allow you to have a small overflow box like you mentioned that you would like earlier. But the long, small boxes would provide the surface skimming.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-23-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tbittner

No. It wouldn't change the flow any. All it would do is provide pure surface skimming. Pretty much 100% of the water going to the sump/fuge/skimmer would be surface water. That's all that long box would provide.

And it would allow you to have a small overflow box like you mentioned that you would like earlier. But the long, small boxes would provide the surface skimming.

OK.... I'm sorry it took so long to compute.... I totally understand what your saying, and that makes the most / best sense. Skim the whole surface... I can still use my originally planned centrally located overflow box to hide the plumbing, but reap the added benefits of skimming the whole tank surface at once!!!! Now I got it.

boozeman · 01-24-2008, 09:20 AM

like this... Austin Oceans - Overflows

tbittner · 01-24-2008, 10:00 AM

Exactly! That's the site I've been looking for and I couldn't find it. If you have plumbing like this added to the skimmer box, it will just dump into your central overflow box.

Frankie · 01-24-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream

A true coast to coast like you stated Greg, would encompass the whole height of the tank (24"). Therefore you could run all your plumbing internally through the bottom. Doing the math L x W divided by 231 would give you the amount in gallons that a true top to bottom coast to coast would take up... In my case that would be 18g. Again, I'm not sure if I want to give up that much internal space.

Terry was speaking of a coast to coast system that went all the way across, but only went about 3-4" down from the waters surface. I think that way you would have to plumb externally.

If you go into my tank thread, Look around page 10-20 you should see a picture of how i built my overflows. They do not take up the whole back of the tank. It is two corner boxes with a trough connecting the two. MAde it myself.

I am not to sure why they call them Calfo overflows. Anthony was not the first person to build this style.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-24-2008, 01:11 PM

Thanks guys for the help... I will check that site out.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-24-2008, 02:19 PM

UPDATE.... With some help, I have figured out a way to successfully run a closed loop system completely concealed, and plumbed through the bottom!! Now, we're getting somewhere... I try to get some drawings posted soon.

BigAl07 · 01-24-2008, 02:35 PM

Hey that sounds interesting!

I'm all ears... well ears and eyes... well you know what I mean

tbittner · 01-24-2008, 03:06 PM

Al, have you been into the pvc glue again?

framerguy · 01-24-2008, 03:31 PM

Here's another drawing. Maybe it makes sense.

BigAl07 · 01-24-2008, 03:40 PM

I like that design!! I like it a LOT!!

No I've not been into it YET and I hope to KEEP it that way a LONG time! Tonight it's ACrylic and Epoxy!!

Frankie · 01-24-2008, 04:00 PM

The only problem with that overflow Greg is the return pipe going down the length of the coast to coast. It will be a trap for algae. from my experience so far with mine, i am always scraping it down removing algae. If that pipe was there the job would be a pain.
For returns i have two that come over the top from behind.
Another way to return is to come up like you have it in the corner box and then out the face or side of that box instead of down the trough.

SaltwaterGeek · 01-24-2008, 04:42 PM

Help me out here.... I am definitely going to run a closed loop, and I'll fill you in on the specifics on how I plan to do this soon.

However, if I'm going to run a "coast to coast" the only way I can do this and also manage a closed loop with the space retrains I have is to run a full top to bottom "coast to coast". By doing this, I will be loosing some overall space, but it would look ultra slick and clean.

With that being said, my question is this. Trying to maximize internal tank space, what would be the MINIMUM width I would want to make the overflow? The largest pipe I will be using is 1 1/2".

01-23-2008, 11:38 PM	#152 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle If I did want to run a true coast to coast, would I need to run multiple drains to manage the entire 48" surface? __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-23-2008, 11:41 PM	#153 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle No. It wouldn't change the flow any. All it would do is provide pure surface skimming. Pretty much 100% of the water going to the sump/fuge/skimmer would be surface water. That's all that long box would provide. And it would allow you to have a small overflow box like you mentioned that you would like earlier. But the long, small boxes would provide the surface skimming. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-24-2008, 09:20 AM	#155 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle like this... Austin Oceans - Overflows __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

01-24-2008, 10:00 AM	#156 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Exactly! That's the site I've been looking for and I couldn't find it. If you have plumbing like this added to the skimmer box, it will just dump into your central overflow box. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-24-2008, 01:11 PM	#158 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Thanks guys for the help... I will check that site out. __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-24-2008, 02:19 PM	#159 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle UPDATE.... With some help, I have figured out a way to successfully run a closed loop system completely concealed, and plumbed through the bottom!! Now, we're getting somewhere... I try to get some drawings posted soon. __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

01-24-2008, 02:35 PM	#160 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Hey that sounds interesting! I'm all ears... well ears and eyes... well you know what I mean __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-24-2008, 03:06 PM	#161 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Al, have you been into the pvc glue again? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-24-2008, 03:31 PM	#162 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Here's another drawing. Maybe it makes sense. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

01-24-2008, 03:40 PM	#163 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle I like that design!! I like it a LOT!! No I've not been into it YET and I hope to KEEP it that way a LONG time! Tonight it's ACrylic and Epoxy!! __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

01-24-2008, 04:00 PM	#164 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,818 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle The only problem with that overflow Greg is the return pipe going down the length of the coast to coast. It will be a trap for algae. from my experience so far with mine, i am always scraping it down removing algae. If that pipe was there the job would be a pain. For returns i have two that come over the top from behind. Another way to return is to come up like you have it in the corner box and then out the face or side of that box instead of down the trough. __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

01-24-2008, 04:42 PM	#165 (permalink)
SaltwaterGeek Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 401 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: My 120g Acrylic Tank Chronicle Help me out here.... I am definitely going to run a closed loop, and I'll fill you in on the specifics on how I plan to do this soon. However, if I'm going to run a "coast to coast" the only way I can do this and also manage a closed loop with the space retrains I have is to run a full top to bottom "coast to coast". By doing this, I will be loosing some overall space, but it would look ultra slick and clean. With that being said, my question is this. Trying to maximize internal tank space, what would be the MINIMUM width I would want to make the overflow? The largest pipe I will be using is 1 1/2". __________________ Thanks for the help, My 150g Envision Acrylic Chronicle

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