"Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" - Page 6

vdituri · 01-26-2008, 08:46 PM

Looks like a worm.
The kind I have spin a long thread and troll it through the water like a fishing line and when they catch something they real it in.
No worries if that is what it is.

CAVINCA · 01-26-2008, 08:54 PM

cool thanks.

CAVINCA · 01-28-2008, 08:42 AM

well i tried to test yesterday...same thing. cant read the colors one bit.
1-28-08

PH am- 7.8 <--- the one thing i can read perfectly
PH pm- 7.9
Ammonia- 2?
Nitrites- 1 or 2?
Nitrates- i read 20 other read 5????

Ive come to terms that i am completely colorblind.
going from lowest to highest in ppm on nitrates... my second color looks darker than my 3rd color...
0- lightest yellow
5- yellow
10- lighter yellow
20- Orangish yellow
...

Is this normal, because the person that read 5 said it was a darker yellow
as well...

Is there an avg. avg. length of time inbetween water changes during cycle. i think ill stick to that until everything is done rising and falling.

tbittner · 01-29-2008, 08:59 AM

I have read conflicting things for doing water changes during a cycle. I've read that you shouldn't do any water changes so the cycle is as strong as it can be. This would cause the most bacteria to build in inside the LR.

I've also read that you shouldn't let the ammonia go above 1 so it doesn't kill any hitch hikers that make the rock "live".

BigAl07 · 01-29-2008, 09:37 AM

I have heard both ways as well. My current "school of thought" is to let the tank cycle "HARD". I not only believe this I practice (Am practicing on TWO tanks right now) it. The only reason I would "soften the cycle" with water changes is if I had been given bad advice and "Stocked" the tank before it was cycled.

My first two tanks went through the normal cycle and I didn't lose anything on the Live Rock (coralline algae etc) but it wasn't PREMIUM Live Rock either. It had no feather dusters or any corals to speak of. Even with that said about a month AFTER the cycle I did start to get some feather dusters on the rock and I hadn't added any NEW rock. So apparently some part of their life cycle (which I didn't even know was IN there) did survive the "Hard Cycle".

I say CYCLE HARD or stay home

CAVINCA · 01-29-2008, 10:15 AM

works for me. makes my life easier. dang water test are driving me insane. i may do a test record results then carry everything to the lfs... including a clean saltwater sample, and have him give me an opinion on my test results and test the clean water in front of me.

BigAl07 · 01-29-2008, 10:32 AM

That's a very good idea. Also ask for specific test results and not "It's ok or good". Ask WHAT the levels are

CAVINCA · 01-29-2008, 10:57 AM

yeah trying to decipher colors is giving me a headache. ive gotten to were i look at it and the first one i think it matches is IT.

Octoman · 01-29-2008, 10:58 AM

When you go to the LFS, open up a few of the test kits off the shelf and see if any have color scales that look like they might be a bit easier for you to read.

framerguy · 01-29-2008, 11:01 AM

My personal thought on WC's and cycling is to do them. The cycle will take longer but the diversity of life you save will be worth the extra effort.

CAVINCA · 01-29-2008, 11:01 AM

not a bad idea..
Not once while i was shopping for tests did it occur to me that "hey, your colorblind... idiot".

CAVINCA · 01-31-2008, 09:33 PM

1-31-08

Ammonia is at 0!!!!! i think... YAY!!

CAVINCA · 02-01-2008, 06:30 PM

2-1-08
Ive Got WORMS!!!!!!
well one.

Yeah first sign of life.

framerguy · 02-01-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVINCA

2-1-08
Ive Got WORMS!!!!!!
well one.

Yeah first sign of life.

WaaHoooooo! That deserves a jig

CAVINCA · 02-04-2008, 12:48 AM

2-3-08
i think ammonia went back up.... ??!!??!!

good note. i have 2 worms. and i think i have pods. round body, forked tail.

also i got this cool little microscope thing from radioshack for 10.00. it has a 60x to 100x zoom. ive been putting it on the glass and looking at the lil pod creatures.

01-26-2008, 08:46 PM	#76 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 6,244 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" Looks like a worm. The kind I have spin a long thread and troll it through the water like a fishing line and when they catch something they real it in. No worries if that is what it is. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-26-2008, 08:54 PM	#77 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" cool thanks. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

01-28-2008, 08:42 AM	#78 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" well i tried to test yesterday...same thing. cant read the colors one bit. 1-28-08 PH am- 7.8 <--- the one thing i can read perfectly PH pm- 7.9 Ammonia- 2? Nitrites- 1 or 2? Nitrates- i read 20 other read 5???? Ive come to terms that i am completely colorblind. going from lowest to highest in ppm on nitrates... my second color looks darker than my 3rd color... 0- lightest yellow 5- yellow 10- lighter yellow 20- Orangish yellow ... Is this normal, because the person that read 5 said it was a darker yellow as well... Is there an avg. avg. length of time inbetween water changes during cycle. i think ill stick to that until everything is done rising and falling. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

01-29-2008, 08:59 AM	#79 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,563 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" I have read conflicting things for doing water changes during a cycle. I've read that you shouldn't do any water changes so the cycle is as strong as it can be. This would cause the most bacteria to build in inside the LR. I've also read that you shouldn't let the ammonia go above 1 so it doesn't kill any hitch hikers that make the rock "live". __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

01-29-2008, 09:37 AM	#80 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" I have heard both ways as well. My current "school of thought" is to let the tank cycle "HARD". I not only believe this I practice (Am practicing on TWO tanks right now) it. The only reason I would "soften the cycle" with water changes is if I had been given bad advice and "Stocked" the tank before it was cycled. My first two tanks went through the normal cycle and I didn't lose anything on the Live Rock (coralline algae etc) but it wasn't PREMIUM Live Rock either. It had no feather dusters or any corals to speak of. Even with that said about a month AFTER the cycle I did start to get some feather dusters on the rock and I hadn't added any NEW rock. So apparently some part of their life cycle (which I didn't even know was IN there) did survive the "Hard Cycle". I say CYCLE HARD or stay home __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-29-2008, 10:15 AM	#81 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" works for me. makes my life easier. dang water test are driving me insane. i may do a test record results then carry everything to the lfs... including a clean saltwater sample, and have him give me an opinion on my test results and test the clean water in front of me. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

01-29-2008, 10:32 AM	#82 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" That's a very good idea. Also ask for specific test results and not "It's ok or good". Ask WHAT the levels are __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-29-2008, 10:57 AM	#83 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" yeah trying to decipher colors is giving me a headache. ive gotten to were i look at it and the first one i think it matches is IT. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

01-29-2008, 10:58 AM	#84 (permalink)
Octoman 8 left feet... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Haven, CT Posts: 1,960 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" When you go to the LFS, open up a few of the test kits off the shelf and see if any have color scales that look like they might be a bit easier for you to read. __________________ Mark My tank thread... Octoman's 55 gallons of euphoria Tank build... 55 Construction

01-29-2008, 11:01 AM	#85 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" My personal thought on WC's and cycling is to do them. The cycle will take longer but the diversity of life you save will be worth the extra effort. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

01-29-2008, 11:01 AM	#86 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" not a bad idea.. Not once while i was shopping for tests did it occur to me that "hey, your colorblind... idiot". __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

01-31-2008, 09:33 PM	#87 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" 1-31-08 Ammonia is at 0!!!!! i think... YAY!! __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

02-01-2008, 06:30 PM	#88 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" 2-1-08 Ive Got WORMS!!!!!! well one. Yeah first sign of life. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

02-04-2008, 12:48 AM	#90 (permalink)
CAVINCA Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 964 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Chronicle Marina del Filón de los Carlos" 2-3-08 i think ammonia went back up.... ??!!??!! good note. i have 2 worms. and i think i have pods. round body, forked tail. also i got this cool little microscope thing from radioshack for 10.00. it has a 60x to 100x zoom. ive been putting it on the glass and looking at the lil pod creatures. __________________ Chronicle Marina del Filon de los Carlos (CLOSED) Carl's 55 Gallon Underwater Inn CARL

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