Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank - Page 22

Craig Manoukian · 09-04-2008, 01:48 AM

Everyting looks fabulous!

djbacon · 09-04-2008, 06:58 PM

anyone have or know of a cure for Bryopsis?

prow · 09-05-2008, 12:34 PM

hey djbacon, do you have a pic of this bryopsis? bryopsis is a real pain to get rid of once its established. a couple things you can do here, first if its on one rock take the rock out. now if its spread over a few rocks you can try to mix up a paste, using water and kalk. dont need much but mix enough to make it a nector thickness. turn your water flow off, all powerhead ect.... then using a syringe or small turkey baster or similar, cover the byopsis with the kalk paste, dont go to crazy, if you have a lot only do small sections at a time. watch your ph as you do this and dont let it go to high. FYI i have used mrs.wages pickling lime in place of kalk, its kinda like the generic version of kalk

. also there maybe some

also stop adding photoplankton, later if you want to use it again, only use very small amounts and only once a week or less. your tank is too small to be adding things like that, too many nutrients all at once. if you really feel the need to target feed with it think about doing a water change shortly after target feedings and/or use very small amounts at a time.

another thing you can try is adding a royal urchin (Mespilia globulus), not the long spine ones. the royals are known to eat up byopsis, long spins will not touch it. remember though even though some/most may eat it, not all will. i would say its better odds than using a peppermint shrimp to rid the tank of aiptasia though.

a heads up; your scooter is a very demanding fish in regaurds to feeding. its even more demanding than its cousin the mandarin goby despite the fact it accepts prepared foods easy enough. if one day everything is fine and the next you find your scooter dead, its nothing you did, these guys are just that demanding food wise and in your tank it will be hard to provide the foods it needs.

djbacon · 09-05-2008, 01:32 PM

I will take a pic of the bryopsis, prety sure its a positive ID. Looks just like this link though.

Melevsreef.com - Bryopsis

Problem is it is growing on the same little rock as a nice piece of acan i got from my LFS. the Acan is groing well and the bryopsis is just about growing out from underneath it now. Ill take a pic when I get back. Appreciate your advice. Kalk paste is pretty much the same stuff in Joes juice isnt it? the bryopsis patch is small, only a about a half inch but growing. I will give that a shot.

I know target feeding is the wrong thing to do in a tank this small but when Im away its the only I think i can get enough food to my filter feeders via my wife. Just doing massive water changes to combat it once a week. For 2 months a year I go on these crazy travel binges for work and that's exactly when these troubles started.

Fortunately "scooter" has plenty of pods and worms and whatnot running around in my tank. He seems to eat mysis too which is awesome. He's become my favorite fish. I sure hope he does OK. I have about 3 or 4 more weeks of all this travel after which i can dedicte some real time to ridding it of all this nuisance.

Always a pleaseure to hear from you Prow - thanks again for all your help.

djbacon · 10-02-2008, 04:38 PM

Hi reef sanctuary - been along time !! Ive been travelling non stop for the last month and am only home now because I caught the flu. The tank is doing well. The gorgonian, has been fragged and the remaining healthy parts are in good health. Everything else is doing great. My trumpet corals are splitting, my mushrooms are splitting like mad, and Im starting to get a handle on the nuisance algae. All in all my wife did a great job caring for the tank in my absence. I miss posting here and reading about everyone's progress but work has to come first at the moment.

I'll take some new shots of the growth soon, unitl thn, here are a couple pictures of the tank with it's other "tank sitter"

Hope everyone is doing well !

djbacon · 11-04-2008, 02:25 PM

Hi RS -

Been a good little while since a new update - have some new pics here. Sadly after my travels this quarter I gave up on my gorgonian and gave it to freind with a bigger tank. I think that the combination of my absence and the lack of adequate feeding and flow are to blame. It is still kicking and will hopefully pull through but was just doing well in my tank.

Although I have been battling a small cyano bacteria problem, things in my tank are generally flourishing. I have started fragging out my xenia and mushrooms out of necessity and traded some in for a small leather in pictured in the center here.

A couple other pics to show progress. things have REALLy filled out!!!

Hope you are all well and wonderful.

astiesi · 11-05-2008, 09:45 PM

Everything looks great! I love the zoas, I've been looking locally for different varieties and only finding very dull colors (browns, greys, etc). Do you recommend any online sellers?

djbacon · 11-05-2008, 09:59 PM

I actually got most of them from a seller here on RS named redspot321 - he is actually local to you in FL.

great stuff and a real nice guy. you might reach out to him. Also - there is a company called Alti's reef from whom I got a bunch, you can llook him up on line - or find him on ebay.

Good luck !!

Smoking Whisper · 11-20-2008, 09:56 AM

wow love the zoos!! their what i like the most i have a few in my tank and they are just so nice looking!! good job on the tank . i have this page in my favorites i come here and see what new dtuff you have put . when i first got my biocube 14 your tank is what made me want everything in there right that min lol but im just pluging away at mine i get to add come coral other then the few zoos i have this weekend

Keep up the good work and pics pics pics!!

oh ya one more thing.... are your zoos glued to your rock and have they grown?
do you know how fast they grow??

Stacef · 11-20-2008, 10:50 AM

Looking great! I like how your shrimp has to be in every shot, darn camera hog!

djbacon · 11-20-2008, 12:13 PM

Haahaa, yea the shrimp is a ham all right,

SW, thanks for the props, all I can say is take it slow....and think twice before adding mushrooms, they spread like mad and have taken over the tank, they require a good amount of pruning to keep things in order in there.

The zoas all started as little groups of 3-5, some glued in place, others on their original rocks, they have all probably quadrupled in the 10 months, except one little nuisance frag that wont grow at all.

The zoas are my favorites, be cautious before adding xenia or mushrooms to a small tank as they will quickly overrun it. !!!

Spickerson · 11-21-2008, 01:12 PM

Absolutely fantastic!
this is why i have i gotten into SW; i only started mine last week so it is still cycling. I just wish my LV would start to go purple a little quicker, they are all mostly white!

djbacon · 11-21-2008, 01:25 PM

You'll be amazed how fast they start to color up!!

sambrinar · 11-21-2008, 01:51 PM

Great looking tank!!

Smoking Whisper · 11-24-2008, 08:40 AM

did you have any hich hikers and how did you get rid of them i have 2 crabs and ones a beast the other guy is smaller but they are eatin my clen up crew and im scared to spend any money on any shrimp or when the times right fish! the cup just wont cut it i just get my clen up crew lol any ideas?

09-04-2008, 01:48 AM	#316 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Everyting looks fabulous! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

09-04-2008, 06:58 PM	#317 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank anyone have or know of a cure for Bryopsis? __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

09-05-2008, 12:34 PM	#318 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,728 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank hey djbacon, do you have a pic of this bryopsis? bryopsis is a real pain to get rid of once its established. a couple things you can do here, first if its on one rock take the rock out. now if its spread over a few rocks you can try to mix up a paste, using water and kalk. dont need much but mix enough to make it a nector thickness. turn your water flow off, all powerhead ect.... then using a syringe or small turkey baster or similar, cover the byopsis with the kalk paste, dont go to crazy, if you have a lot only do small sections at a time. watch your ph as you do this and dont let it go to high. FYI i have used mrs.wages pickling lime in place of kalk, its kinda like the generic version of kalk. also there maybe some also stop adding photoplankton, later if you want to use it again, only use very small amounts and only once a week or less. your tank is too small to be adding things like that, too many nutrients all at once. if you really feel the need to target feed with it think about doing a water change shortly after target feedings and/or use very small amounts at a time. another thing you can try is adding a royal urchin (Mespilia globulus), not the long spine ones. the royals are known to eat up byopsis, long spins will not touch it. remember though even though some/most may eat it, not all will. i would say its better odds than using a peppermint shrimp to rid the tank of aiptasia though. a heads up; your scooter is a very demanding fish in regaurds to feeding. its even more demanding than its cousin the mandarin goby despite the fact it accepts prepared foods easy enough. if one day everything is fine and the next you find your scooter dead, its nothing you did, these guys are just that demanding food wise and in your tank it will be hard to provide the foods it needs. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

09-05-2008, 01:32 PM	#319 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank I will take a pic of the bryopsis, prety sure its a positive ID. Looks just like this link though. Melevsreef.com - Bryopsis Problem is it is growing on the same little rock as a nice piece of acan i got from my LFS. the Acan is groing well and the bryopsis is just about growing out from underneath it now. Ill take a pic when I get back. Appreciate your advice. Kalk paste is pretty much the same stuff in Joes juice isnt it? the bryopsis patch is small, only a about a half inch but growing. I will give that a shot. I know target feeding is the wrong thing to do in a tank this small but when Im away its the only I think i can get enough food to my filter feeders via my wife. Just doing massive water changes to combat it once a week. For 2 months a year I go on these crazy travel binges for work and that's exactly when these troubles started. Fortunately "scooter" has plenty of pods and worms and whatnot running around in my tank. He seems to eat mysis too which is awesome. He's become my favorite fish. I sure hope he does OK. I have about 3 or 4 more weeks of all this travel after which i can dedicte some real time to ridding it of all this nuisance. Always a pleaseure to hear from you Prow - thanks again for all your help. __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

10-02-2008, 04:38 PM	#320 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Hi reef sanctuary - been along time !! Ive been travelling non stop for the last month and am only home now because I caught the flu. The tank is doing well. The gorgonian, has been fragged and the remaining healthy parts are in good health. Everything else is doing great. My trumpet corals are splitting, my mushrooms are splitting like mad, and Im starting to get a handle on the nuisance algae. All in all my wife did a great job caring for the tank in my absence. I miss posting here and reading about everyone's progress but work has to come first at the moment. I'll take some new shots of the growth soon, unitl thn, here are a couple pictures of the tank with it's other "tank sitter" Hope everyone is doing well ! __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

11-04-2008, 02:25 PM	#321 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Hi RS - Been a good little while since a new update - have some new pics here. Sadly after my travels this quarter I gave up on my gorgonian and gave it to freind with a bigger tank. I think that the combination of my absence and the lack of adequate feeding and flow are to blame. It is still kicking and will hopefully pull through but was just doing well in my tank. Although I have been battling a small cyano bacteria problem, things in my tank are generally flourishing. I have started fragging out my xenia and mushrooms out of necessity and traded some in for a small leather in pictured in the center here. A couple other pics to show progress. things have REALLy filled out!!! Hope you are all well and wonderful. __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

11-05-2008, 09:45 PM	#322 (permalink)
astiesi Sea Pen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Margate, FL Posts: 342 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Everything looks great! I love the zoas, I've been looking locally for different varieties and only finding very dull colors (browns, greys, etc). Do you recommend any online sellers? __________________ Anthony 65G Mixed Reef: -Glass-holes.com 1500 Overflow Kit -Octopus NW-150 Protein Skimmer -Current Nova Extreme Pro 6x39W T5 -200W Hydor Theo Heater -20L Sump (Skimmer/Return/Refugium) -Mag 9.5 Return Pump BioCube 14g: -48W PC Lighting - 24 10000K, 24 Actinic -Oceanic BioCube Skimmer -50W Hydor Theo Heater -Maxi-Jet 600 (160 gph) -Koralia Nano (240 gph) 1st Reef Tank - 14g BioCube 65g Father's Day Gift

11-05-2008, 09:59 PM	#323 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank I actually got most of them from a seller here on RS named redspot321 - he is actually local to you in FL. great stuff and a real nice guy. you might reach out to him. Also - there is a company called Alti's reef from whom I got a bunch, you can llook him up on line - or find him on ebay. Good luck !! __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

11-20-2008, 09:56 AM	#324 (permalink)
Smoking Whisper Bryozoan Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 58 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank wow love the zoos!! their what i like the most i have a few in my tank and they are just so nice looking!! good job on the tank . i have this page in my favorites i come here and see what new dtuff you have put . when i first got my biocube 14 your tank is what made me want everything in there right that min lol but im just pluging away at mine i get to add come coral other then the few zoos i have this weekend Keep up the good work and pics pics pics!! oh ya one more thing.... are your zoos glued to your rock and have they grown? do you know how fast they grow??

11-20-2008, 10:50 AM	#325 (permalink)
Stacef Golden Moray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubuque Posts: 2,620 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Looking great! I like how your shrimp has to be in every shot, darn camera hog! __________________ Stace My 72g Build-full of pictures, we all know you loce pictures! I've had to pay my price. The things I did not know at first, I learned by doin' twice. -Billy Joel

11-20-2008, 12:13 PM	#326 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Haahaa, yea the shrimp is a ham all right, SW, thanks for the props, all I can say is take it slow....and think twice before adding mushrooms, they spread like mad and have taken over the tank, they require a good amount of pruning to keep things in order in there. The zoas all started as little groups of 3-5, some glued in place, others on their original rocks, they have all probably quadrupled in the 10 months, except one little nuisance frag that wont grow at all. The zoas are my favorites, be cautious before adding xenia or mushrooms to a small tank as they will quickly overrun it. !!! __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

11-21-2008, 01:12 PM	#327 (permalink)
Spickerson Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Absolutely fantastic! this is why i have i gotten into SW; i only started mine last week so it is still cycling. I just wish my LV would start to go purple a little quicker, they are all mostly white!

11-21-2008, 01:25 PM	#328 (permalink)
djbacon Neon dottyback Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 601 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank You'll be amazed how fast they start to color up!! __________________ Check out my awesome 14g nanoreef in progress - http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ater-tank.html The Nano Club - It's not the size of the reef. It's what's in it that counts

11-21-2008, 01:51 PM	#329 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,410 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank Great looking tank!! __________________ Brenda Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

11-24-2008, 08:40 AM	#330 (permalink)
Smoking Whisper Bryozoan Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 58 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ricks' Oceanic 14G Biocube - my first salt water tank did you have any hich hikers and how did you get rid of them i have 2 crabs and ones a beast the other guy is smaller but they are eatin my clen up crew and im scared to spend any money on any shrimp or when the times right fish! the cup just wont cut it i just get my clen up crew lol any ideas?

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