my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24"

tigerarmy90 · 12-09-2007, 03:57 AM

well as some of you may know I wanted to do a tank with these dims for some time! I had a 40g reef for about three years while I was living in a upstairs apt. so as you can probably guess a sump was out of the question!

About 2 years ago I bought my home and the planning started

I knew I wanted a 36x24x24 design beacuse I have always loved the 24" wide tanks due to the flexability when aquascaping. I wanted the braceless look cause I really dig the clean lines and open top look with those polished edges.

here is what it started as

and here is what I got

prow · 12-09-2007, 04:30 AM

nice. what are your plans as for as closed loops, returns ect...?

tigerarmy90 · 12-09-2007, 04:48 AM

thanks, the closed loop was designed with the oceans mothion 4 ways in mind. The tank is drilled with one 2" drain and four 1" returns so Ill be running a sequence dart with the 4 way with a version 3 drum!! Im going to plum it so the top to run then the bottom and continued.

boozeman · 12-09-2007, 11:10 AM

very, very nice

on which other forum have I seen this tank before?

tigerarmy90 · 12-09-2007, 12:26 PM

thanks boozeman! proabably familiar with it from reefcentral, the 3d was made by another reefer that did a 36x24x18 without the closed loop so I got his permission to use and it made some changes to it

I also built my stand using a template from reefcentral, this thing worked wonders cause I am no great diy'er, lol
Reef Central Online Community - DIY Stands Template and Calculator

everyone told me not to attempt the flush door but I think it came out alright

ragvette · 12-09-2007, 12:26 PM

nice setup

boozeman · 12-09-2007, 05:14 PM

sure is sweet....now get 'er wet !!!

tigerarmy90 · 12-09-2007, 10:26 PM

thanks fellas, I have been taking my time at being impatient about everything. I have ran into a small dilema when it comes to my lighting. I guess I thinking about my check book more then anything. I have a single lumenarc 3 reflector and 2x lumenarc mini's. I have two pfo ballast so I have the option to run both the mini's but I oplan on running 10k halides so I will def need some actinic supplimentation to ballance out the color. So if I go with the dual halides I will need more actinic to make it work and if I go with a single then just a 2 bulb actinic set up would do...since i jsut made everyone a little dumber for having read this

let me simplify one halide will mean 2 actinic bulbs and two halides will mean 4 actinic bulbs. Im thinking I iwll either be going vho or t5vho

I really like the natural look so for me 14 or 20k are out of the question.

BigAl07 · 12-09-2007, 10:29 PM

I got lost....

1 Mh = 2 Actinic
2 Mh = 4 Actinic

Why is that? I'd run as much as I could in order to benefit the tank... if you can fit 2 Mh + 4 T5 go for it. But if it's space then 1 MH = 4 T5 (or more)

prow · 12-09-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

let me simplify one halide will mean 2 actinic bulbs and two halides will mean 4 actinic bulbs

lost me too? you mean one MH needs 2 actinic bulbs for supplement lighting and 2 MH will need 4 actinic bulbs???

tigerarmy90 · 12-10-2007, 12:05 AM

thats it! I like the look of a nice balanced out 10k bulb, I bought a coralvue 10k , reeflux 10k and hamilton 10k and have tested them all on my pfo ballast and so far Im liking the hamilton the best. I still want to try out the xm to see if I like the look. When I fire both my hamiltons with two vho's the actinic comes through but not quite as much as I would like, I think they are getting overpowered by the mh. with a single mh it comes out to pretty nice color...Im also keeping my pg&e in mind! I will more then likely just give in and do both mh's and maybe 4xvho's. Ill add some pics of the hood I built and the reflectors in it later this week!

AQTCJAK · 12-10-2007, 11:45 AM

Greg glad to see you have made it here. Stand looks great.

BTW Michael_cb125 & anyone else who is courious about tanks I build this is one of them. As Greg mentioned it took alot of planning for this one

mps9506 · 12-10-2007, 01:33 PM

Nice tank, I love the dimensions. Sounds like you think the way I do.
Are you worried about noise with your overflow setup that way?

BTW, do you do external overflows as well Jack?

lcstorc · 12-10-2007, 01:58 PM

Looks like you are off to a great start.
I assume you are going to hang the lights to preserve the frameless look.

tigerarmy90 · 12-11-2007, 12:14 AM

mps, Im not too worried about the overflow, I plan to do a external standpipe with an airline to break the siphon affect so it should be pretty quiet...Im thinking Ill have to mess with it a little to dial it in but it should work out

lynn I will def be hanging the lights, I built the hood to be a hanging pendant that matches the stand! now I just have to figure our how to hang it securely and make it so I can adjust the height easily...here are some pics of the hoods progress

I routed the edges to match the stand

I had this mermaid imported from bali to finish off the look of the pendant

with the l3 reflector in it

12-09-2007, 03:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" well as some of you may know I wanted to do a tank with these dims for some time! I had a 40g reef for about three years while I was living in a upstairs apt. so as you can probably guess a sump was out of the question! About 2 years ago I bought my home and the planning started I knew I wanted a 36x24x24 design beacuse I have always loved the 24" wide tanks due to the flexability when aquascaping. I wanted the braceless look cause I really dig the clean lines and open top look with those polished edges. here is what it started as and here is what I got

12-09-2007, 04:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,728 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" nice. what are your plans as for as closed loops, returns ect...? __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

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tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" thanks, the closed loop was designed with the oceans mothion 4 ways in mind. The tank is drilled with one 2" drain and four 1" returns so Ill be running a sequence dart with the 4 way with a version 3 drum!! Im going to plum it so the top to run then the bottom and continued.

12-09-2007, 11:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,802 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" very, very nice on which other forum have I seen this tank before? __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

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tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" thanks boozeman! proabably familiar with it from reefcentral, the 3d was made by another reefer that did a 36x24x18 without the closed loop so I got his permission to use and it made some changes to it I also built my stand using a template from reefcentral, this thing worked wonders cause I am no great diy'er, lol Reef Central Online Community - DIY Stands Template and Calculator everyone told me not to attempt the flush door but I think it came out alright

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ragvette Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Villa, IL Posts: 193 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" nice setup __________________ -Rodney My 135g Chronicle Reef Store Locator

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boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,802 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" sure is sweet....now get 'er wet !!! __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

12-09-2007, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" thanks fellas, I have been taking my time at being impatient about everything. I have ran into a small dilema when it comes to my lighting. I guess I thinking about my check book more then anything. I have a single lumenarc 3 reflector and 2x lumenarc mini's. I have two pfo ballast so I have the option to run both the mini's but I oplan on running 10k halides so I will def need some actinic supplimentation to ballance out the color. So if I go with the dual halides I will need more actinic to make it work and if I go with a single then just a 2 bulb actinic set up would do...since i jsut made everyone a little dumber for having read this let me simplify one halide will mean 2 actinic bulbs and two halides will mean 4 actinic bulbs. Im thinking I iwll either be going vho or t5vho I really like the natural look so for me 14 or 20k are out of the question.

12-09-2007, 10:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" I got lost.... 1 Mh = 2 Actinic 2 Mh = 4 Actinic Why is that? I'd run as much as I could in order to benefit the tank... if you can fit 2 Mh + 4 T5 go for it. But if it's space then 1 MH = 4 T5 (or more) __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

12-10-2007, 12:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" thats it! I like the look of a nice balanced out 10k bulb, I bought a coralvue 10k , reeflux 10k and hamilton 10k and have tested them all on my pfo ballast and so far Im liking the hamilton the best. I still want to try out the xm to see if I like the look. When I fire both my hamiltons with two vho's the actinic comes through but not quite as much as I would like, I think they are getting overpowered by the mh. with a single mh it comes out to pretty nice color...Im also keeping my pg&e in mind! I will more then likely just give in and do both mh's and maybe 4xvho's. Ill add some pics of the hood I built and the reflectors in it later this week!

12-10-2007, 11:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" Greg glad to see you have made it here. Stand looks great. BTW Michael_cb125 & anyone else who is courious about tanks I build this is one of them. As Greg mentioned it took alot of planning for this one __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

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12-11-2007, 12:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
tigerarmy90 Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 182 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: my 90g braceless/framless tank!! 36x24x24" mps, Im not too worried about the overflow, I plan to do a external standpipe with an airline to break the siphon affect so it should be pretty quiet...Im thinking Ill have to mess with it a little to dial it in but it should work out lynn I will def be hanging the lights, I built the hood to be a hanging pendant that matches the stand! now I just have to figure our how to hang it securely and make it so I can adjust the height easily...here are some pics of the hoods progress I routed the edges to match the stand I had this mermaid imported from bali to finish off the look of the pendant with the l3 reflector in it

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